Showing posts with label 2008 election forecast. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 2008 election forecast. Show all posts

Sunday, February 3, 2008

Hillary and Obama: Astrological "Styles" of Communication


Astrologist Beth Turnage of Astrology Explored takes a look at the "communication styles" of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and how their astrological "makeup" may determine those types of styles:
The mail came Saturday, just before Super Tuesday to our Connecticut household, bearing Hillary’s campaign piece to my husband and a separate one addressed to me.

I picked up the one addressed to my husband and my
daughter picked up the one addressed to me.

"Look at this," I said, "Hillary is comparing her solutions to Barak’s."

My daughter began to read the campaign flier in her hand out loud. It was then that I realized that the two pieces were substantially different. When I remarked on it, she said “Look, mom, this piece is prettier.” Indeed, the one addressed to me had more pictures and words, and upon further examination, a phone number for the recipient to call if they had any questions.

Were these two pieces strategically designed for one set to go to
women, and the other to men, presenting essentially the same message, but in a different style? And if so, what does this tell us about the communication style of America’s first viable female candidate for the highest office in the land? How does this compare with the communications style of her closest rival?

Astrologically, Hillary has Mercury, the planet representing her thinking processes and her communications style, in the power packed sign of Scorpio. This position alone is difficult for anyone to handle, but Hillary also has Scorpio for her Sun with Chiron and Venus as well as her South Node.

Here is an individual who has an instinctual grasp of power and control of what it takes to manipulate along with a harmonious aspect to Uranus, the ability to do so with the masses. However, in challenge aspect to the planet of action, Mars, it gives her arguments and her actions, a sharp, unyielding edge, resistant to establishing rapport with her audience. It is also what gives people a reason to dislike her as some people vehemently do.

By contrast, Barak Obama has Mercury in the expansive sign of Leo. This lends an aura of authority and charisma to his oratory, drawing people to his message in an almost hypnotic manner.

Leo has the gift of making you feel special just by being in their presence. It is mind candy in the highest form, one that many Americans are gobbling up. It's not that he doesn’t believe his message, he certainly does. But in opposition to the expansive planet, Jupiter in Aquarius, we have the symbolic image of hot air. In other words, he promises more than he can deliver.

Scorpio issues are basically one of trust, and we are seeing this in our reactions to Hillary, a woman candidate for president.

Can we trust a woman to a make decisions for us? Can we trust her ability to make strategic decisions? Can we trust that she won't make fundamental mistakes that will ultimately harm us?

We need to know the answers to these questions before we cast our vote.

Hillary says she has substance. She certainly does. With Scorpio, she does not commit to a position until she is absolutely sure it is the correct one. Scorpios protect themselves by not revealing. Withholding and lacking in spontaneity, Scorpio natives can appear aloof and unfeeling, not what we need to see when we are looking for the answer as to whether or not to vote for her.

Hillary’s communication style isn't helping her in this regard. It's her biggest obstacle, not any political rival, in securing the presidency.


Beth made a good observation in regards to Hillary and Obama's styles of communication. She noted that Hillary has Mercury in Scorpio with her sun sign in Scorpio which highlights Hillary's "instinctual" grasp of "power and control" with the ability to "manipulate" the masses.

Beth points out that Obama's Mercury in his sun sign Leo lends him "charisma" with his oratory skills, how he is able to draw people in with his authoritative style and almost "hypnotic" manner.

Beth points out that voters might grapple with the issue of whether a woman can lead and how Hillary's Scorpio tendencies of not revealing her positions until she is sure they are right ones, how her Scorpio "aloofness" and lack of "spontaneity" hampers the voters ability to "get to know her."

Beth points out that Obama, while being authoritative and believing his own message has Jupiter in Aquarius, a combination which can mean "hot air."

Communication styles are imperative. Hillary is shrewd enough to have sent out campaign fliers with basically the same message but tailored for each focus group. So what she lacks in personal style she makes up delegating to someone with good marketing skills in regards to getting her message out.

Obama's style is more positive for voters who feel they must have some sort of "connection" in order to vote (trust) for someone.

In short, Obama is likeable, the quintessential Leo, charismatic, a good leader. Hillary is the typical Scorpio, serious, aloof, but powerful, shrewd, and as history has shown, manipulative.

Time and the stars will tell if either Hillary or Obama's "style" will carry them to the White House in 2008.

By LBG

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Saturday, January 5, 2008

Obama: Astrologers Predict Obama's Run for the White House

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We're doing a series of astrological predictions for the 2008 Presidential candidates. We decided to take a closer look at the winners of the Iowa Caucus, Mike Huckabee and Barack Obama. Yesterday we had several astrologer's "take" on Mike Huckabee's chances for being elected the next President.

Today we're focusing on Democrat Senator Barack Obama.

Obama's birthdate is August 4th which is Leo the Lion. Leo is ruled by the sun.


Astrologers Predictions

This prediction was up Jan 1, 2008 on My DD:

Barack Obama
Leo (d.o.b. August 4)
Forecast: "A gift or two is in the day's cards for you, and it will likely come from your sweetie, who wants you to know how much brighter you make their world. Express your inner emotions, too - don't be afraid to have sticky sweet words come out of your mouth."
Meaning: Iowa will choose you to be her one and only. Start preparing a memorable victory speech.

From Astromarkt:

He would have a Moon trine Jupiter, being born at 14:02. Moon trine Jupiter is very helpful on the way to the White House. Strategical thinking is a must for American presidents. His Saturn is 157.5 degrees away from the midpoint Mercury/Pluto. There are a number of indications for success:

Sun square Jupiter/Uranus
Mars semi square Sun/Mercury and Sun/Jupiter
Jupiter sesqui square Mars/Pluto
Pluto semi square Sun/Venus
Nodes square Mars/Jupiter

My conclusion (not knowing his HOB!) is that he is first of all a creative (fire and earth dominating) diplomat (Venus most prominent), who could be a (too) idealistic leader.

I think Obama has a good chance to become the next president or vice-president, given these data. But I would not bet on it, if I were you. Last time (Bush-Kerry) most of the astrologers had the wrong idea about the next president. And in this case we don't even know his HOB for sure.

A prediction from Astro Future Trends for Super Tuesday, Feb. 5:

Barack Obama: His Leo planets (Mercury, Sun, Uranus) will also be opposed by the Aquarius lineup on super-primary day, but not as closely as Clinton’s. Saturn will conjunct his Pluto. Pluto will be opposing his Venus, probably not such a good thing for a political candidate in the heat of an election.

From Blessed By The Stars:
Another interesting connection is Obama’s natal Neptune exactly conjunct the U.S. Scorpio ascendant. This bring his vision of equality to the forefront and prominent in the eyes of the American people. In addition, his natal Uranus, opposes the U.S. Moon exactly at 25ยบ Aquarius indicating excitement, charisma, and the sudden skyrocketing to fame. Historically, a candidate must have a strong connection to the U.S. Moon to ensure their popular approval and to get elected. In early 2008, at the height of the Democratic primaries, Obama's progressed chart looks extremely favorable (progressed Jupiter conjunct the U.S. Pluto, as his progressed Sun trines the U.S. Pluto) for advancing his ambitions.

There you have it, several predictions from astrologers on Senator Obama's run for the Oval Office.

We wrote yesterday that astrology is perceived as some "wacky" New Age fad. In reality astrology was around well before astronomy. Both Gallileo and Copernicus were astrologers. That being said, astrology still remains unaccepted as a "science."

This quote from Carl Sagan sums it up, at least for us:

That we can now think of no mechanism for astrology is relevant but unconvincing. No mechanism was known, for example, for continental drift when it was proposed by Wegener. Nevertheless, we see that Wegener was right, and those who objected on the grounds of unavailable mechanism were wrong. Source - Astrology-ca
- Carl Sagan

By LBG

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