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Wednesday, January 23, 2008

Louisiana GOP Caucus: Results, Ron Paul Rumors - UPDATES

No Official Results Announced Yet
Updated--10:30 am January 23, 2008
Updated--7:50 pm January 23, 2008
PLUS: Comments from Four Who Were There at the LA GOP Caucuses Last Night


complicated

adj.

1. Containing intricately combined or involved parts.
2. Not easy to understand or analyze.
3. Louisiana Republican Caucus process.


The Louisiana Republican Party Caucuses are not an easy thing--either to report or to make sense of.



UPDATE: 7:50 pm January 23, 2008 Wednesday

From National Review:

...candidates for delegate in Louisiana historically have run on one or another slate, but not on multiple slates. This year, however, many candidates ran on more than one slate. There was significant overlap, for example, between the McCain and Pro-Life slates. So determination of which slate won is not as clear-cut. But it certainly appears that the order was: Uncommitted Pro-Life, McCain, Paul, Romney, others.

--Louisiana Results Clarified

So, basically, we know about as much now as we did this morning when this was first written--about 15 hours ago.

UPDATE: 10:30 am January 23, 2008 Wednesday

From the Shreveport Times:

GOP Releases Unofficial Results

Nearly 10,000 Louisiana Republicans voted for delegates and alternate delegates to the 2008 Louisiana Republican Convention at caucuses throughout the state on Tuesday.

The Congressional District 4 caucus — which encompasses Caddo, Bossier, Webster, Claiborne, Bienville, DeSoto and Red River parishes — was held at the CenturyTel Center in Bossier City.

Not a lot there, apparently most of the delegates are committed to a slate of the other four candidates.

Quick analysis from Lew Rockwell on this development:

Ronald Reagan Wins Louisiana Caucus

1. The coalition delegate slate will be split 4 ways at the state convention, and Paul may have more than any one candidate.

2. Paul supposedly has most of the alternate delegate slots, most of which were uncontested. So if somebody doesn't show up or is ruled ineligible, a Paul delegate can step up.

3. If half of Paul's supporters did indeed cast provisional ballots, these results from the Shreveport times are utterly meaningless.

So, even though results are in, you probably know only slightly more now than when this post was written at 4:30 am this morning.

UPDATE: Some comments by delegates who were at the various GOP caucuses.

In congressional district 1 it looked like there was divided support between Ron Paul and Mitt ROB-ney...or was that RONALD REAGAN? I swear, one of the voting sheets had "Vote one for the Gipper" and had Nancy and Ronald Reagan on it with the delegates names--and not the mystery candidate. I guess this clown is ashamed to put his name on there and has to try to ride in on the coat-tails of a dead president? Don't know who was passing those out, but we saved one. (If someone does know who had the "Gipper" delegates, please DO tell! Is Reagan on the ballot in Louisiana???
Lovin' Ron Paul in the Bayou S | 01.23.08 - 6:13 am


Same here in Lafayette, District 7.
Only visible campaigns were Paul and Romney.
The Profamily/Prolife ticket was supposedly noncommitted. I work with one of those delegates and she is wavering between Huckabee and Paul.
My take is Louisiana is betting on becoming a convention broker with a large contingent of uncommitted delegates. If anything I can read from what I have heard and have seen at my caucus is that Paul, Romney and the Uncommitted ticket should do well. Other districts had McCain as doing well also.
DF Robichaux | 01.23.08 - 7:49 am


At the Lake Charles caucus, Ron Paul supporters far outnumbered everyone else by a large percentage. The only other candidate with even a table was Mitt Romney and I counted only 2 or 3 Mitt supporters while I was there.
Bobby Richard | 01.23.08 - 7:58 am |


I'm in District 7, Lafayette caucus. I was delegate #57 on the ballot, on the Ron Paul ticket.

I was there the entire time polls were open. There seemed to be a strong showing from our ticket and also a strong ticket from a ticket labeled only "Pro-Life, Pro-Family"...early rumors are that this was a coalition tickets of the Washington-As-Usual candidates.

Thanks for the story; it seems I'm not the only one having trouble finding any solid information this morning.
Daniel Schroeder | Homepage | 01.23.08 - 8:19 am


We'll supply updates as we get them.
Thanx Everyone for the news! This is better than AP!



We thoroughly scoured both the web and print sources and the following is what we learned: not a lot--yet.

The Louisiana Republican Party held caucuses at 11 sites across the state yesterday to select delegates to a state convention at which Louisiana's GOP convention delegates will be determined.

The Louisiana caucuses are so complicated that no one is reporting on it.

We'll take a stab.

There are no reported results--as of the moment--but the results should be announced sometime later this morning. The results will be difficult to interpret in any event.
The following was one of the best explanations of the complicated process that we have found.
Here's how Louisiana's caucus works (I think): The attendees at the 11 caucus sites voted on delegates to the statewide convention. Those delegates are nominally "uncommitted." But if a majority of attendees at a caucus site were, for example, Ron Paul supporters, they would vote for delegates who, in turn, will support Paul.

But that process only accounts for about half the La. delegates to the GOP national convention. The remaining delegates--those who are "at large" or "bonus" delegates--will be selected at the state convention; if someone gets 50% of the vote in a "beauty contest" primary on Feb. 9, then he gets that second tranch of delegates; otherwise, they're also nominally uncommitted.

At this moment, the only reporting is of rumors. An example:
We have heard a rumor that in Natchitoches Ron Paul won 11 of the 15 Delegates and that there were less than 100 people at some sites, some Ron Paul supporters are saying “Dr. Paul must be doing well, since I haven’t seen anything about it on the so called news channels”.
And another rumor:
But so far the only thing we could find was from a Ron Paul supporter who stated that the Paulies had a majority of the turnout at the Lake Charles caucus site.
And that's it: only a couple of rumors. Expect no more information for at least another 3 1/2 hours, at best.

Probably closer to 10 am EST would be a better guess.


And, as a tribute to tone-deaf politicians everywhere, the following quote is presented.
In any event, it looks like Loosianans will be ignored, despite this amusing quote from Roger Villere, the chairman of the La. Republican Party, earlier this month: “We’re excited about the upcoming caucuses. I believe this system will allow Louisiana Republicans to have a strong impact on the election of the next President of the United States.”


The Louisiana GOP caucus process does seem to reward grass roots effort and that seems to be a strength of the Ron Paul Louisiana campaign effort.

Ron Paul campaigned in Louisiana yesterday and from all reports, was one of the few Republican candidates to do so.

Paul supporters, also going on published accounts, appear to have effectively mobilized in the Bayou State and turned out for the Texas Congressman. From these early rumored reports, Paul could come away with enough delegates to finish either first or second.

And that's good news for a campaign whose biggest obstacle to this point has been national name recognition.

After searching the Internet, this is the sum of what is known at 4:40 am Wednesday morning January 23, 2008.

That's not so much, huh? Two rumors and many promises that the results will be released later this morning--honest.


UPDATE at 7:32 am January 23, 2008

The following comment was left on this story:
In congressional district 1 it looked like there was divided support between Ron Paul and Mitt ROB-ney...or was that RONALD REAGAN? I swear, one of the voting sheets had "Vote one for the Gipper" and had Nancy and Ronald Reagan on it with the delegates names--and not the mystery candidate. I guess this clown is ashamed to put his name on there and has to try to ride in on the coat-tails of a dead president? Don't know who was passing those out, but we saved one. (If someone does know who had the "Gipper" delegates, please DO tell! Is Reagan on the ballot in Louisiana???
Lovin' Ron Paul in the Bayou S | 01.23.08 - 6:13 am

That's two rumors and one eye-witness.

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* Louisiana GOP Caucus Results
* Positive for Ron Paul in the Louisiana Caucus Results


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Saturday, January 5, 2008

Hillary Clinton: Down, But Not Out

Hillary was beaten in Iowa, but like Dracula, she'll rise again


The New York Post has an Op-Ed by DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN, 'Analyzing Iowa'. Here's what they had to say about Hillary Clinton's performance.

WARNING TO CLINTONITES: It's not very complimentary.

But what of Hillary Clinton? She's down but not out. In the first really contested election of her own political career, she lost dismally - outclassed, outdrawn and outpolled by Obama.

Her campaign professionals (including Bill) decided to stress experience, precisely the wrong message in a Democratic primary. Prematurely appealing to the center and abandoning the left, she fell between two chairs - not sufficiently centrist to win independents or liberal enough to attract Democrats.

The Post's duo of Morris and McGann make this observation about Democratic winner, Barack Obama.

"...Obama - by winning in a totally white state - shows that racism is gone as a factor in American politics."

We agree that racism isn't the over-riding force it's made out to be, especially on the Left--where there's a racist chicken in every racist's pot and a racist car in every racist's garage.

We hate to cross political analysis swords with Dick Morris et. al., but we think what the Iowa Democrat results showed was much more simple.

Obama had the singular advantage of being neither Clinton nor Edwards.

Whether this enough to carry the junior Senator from Illinois to victory in the Democrat tussle, we'll see.

Morris and McGann go on to say:
The Obama win last night probably presages another in New Hampshire and follow-up victories in Nevada and South Carolina. (Clinton will carry Michigan: She's alone on the ballot).

So Hillary's argument that her record of defeating the "Republican attack machine" means she should be the candidate will backfire. Sold as a winner, she's exposed as a loser. The Iowa overhang will dog her for all the early primaries.

Hillary faces a serious problem: Voters rejected her and rejected Bill on a very personal basis. Iowa was a referendum on her, and she lost 30 percent to 70 percent. Her argument of experience only reinforced her phoniness and her issues-positioning showed how contrived her ideology is. This is a stinging personal defeat for Sen. Clinton.

There are items we disagree with in the Post's assessment.

However, we don't disagree with RidesAPaleHorse: Clinton is down, but not out.

by Mondoreb & RidesAPaleHorse
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Source:
* Analyzing Iowa: Two Historic Victories

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Thursday, November 1, 2007

Rudy Has a Problem with Values
--And Fashion--Voters


The latest polling news is grim for Rudy and the Republicans: they get crushed by the Clinton fashion juggernaut.

Polls say that in a match-up between Rudy in drag and Hillary Clinton in a peach pants suit with navy blue scarf, voters prefer Hillary by almost 20%. If Giuliani changed his outfit to a more presidential Brooks Brother suit, likely voters indicate that the gap is more than cut in half to 9%--if the suit is a dark blue.

This according to the latest Zogby Poll.

Of course, that's Fred Zogby, the guy down at the Limestone General Store who said he'd check this out for us. Fred completed his research and dropped it off while on his way to town. When told that there was no hurry, Zogby responded "People have a right to know."

Fred was partly motivated by the latest news from Pew Research and the analysis from Politico
One year before voters go to the polls to select the next president, the Republican Party is as weak as it has been in a generation, a detailed new poll suggests.

In a hypothetical match-up between Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani, bloc after bloc of traditionally Republican voters break for Clinton:

She wins the South. She polls evenly with voters who attend church at least once a week. She splits families with a household income above $100,000. She loses rural voters and men — but only by a narrow margin.

The findings from The Pew Research Center for the People & the Press remain preliminary, considering even the primaries are still two months off.

Dire news indeed for early November--in 2007.

Back to our Zogby. He indicates the poll has a statistical margin of error of plus or minus 14%, depending on time of day asked and number of beers consumed by the respondents. He was quick to point out that these results might not reflect the moods of Americans on Election Day 2008, seeing as how that's over a year away.

But they're probably as accurate as their more-scientific brethren at this point.

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