Turkey Today: Three Christians Tortured, Then Murdered

It Was All An Islamic Misunderstanding



On April 18, 2007, 5 Muslims who proclaimed they wanted to convert to Christianity, met with 3 German and Turkish Christians. In order to prepare themselves for the Bible Study, they decided to bring with towels, guns,table knives, a hunting knife, and rope. All were devout Muslims, going to the local Mosque and in communication with the local friendly Imam.

Apparently they were under the impression this was a show-and-tell session, when they could describe the idiosyncrasies of Islam, prior to their instruction in the Bible.



They then proceeded to tie up the three men into chairs. They then arranged them in a circle. First they cut off the genitals of one, showed it to the others, then chopped it into pieces and stomped one it. They did this to all three in turn. Then they disemboweled one after the other and cut the intestines into pieces. They then slit the rectum of each man in turn.

Then took turn stabbing them.

Three Christians sadistically tortured and finally murdered

ICC then continued to describe the nature of the torture, which included disembowelment, emasculation, and the slicing open of various orifices.

“Tilman was stabbed 156 times, Necati 99 times and Ugur’s stabs were too numerous to count. Finally, their throats were sliced from ear to ear, heads practically decapitated,” ICC reports. According to Christian Today. This went on for 3 hours. Of course we do not have to take their word for it. The perpetrators conveniently filmed it, sound and all.




But it turn out it is all a misunderstanding. While someone injured these infidels, no-one of the five did. In fact they did not go to do harm at all. OK, one of them did--just one--but they all point to each other.

So the Turkish officials are hopelessly confused. I mean would one of these Gentlemen lie? O

f course not. At the 5th pre-hearing, that is right, the 5th.

Remember those video recordings? Apparently the Turkish authorities are hoping you don't.

"I didn't kill anybody, I just hit them" said the ring leader, who happens to be the son of the local mayor.He said that one of the others hit one of infidels, and maybe slashed a bit. But he is suffering a debilitating memory loss. He was injured in his escape attempt, and is someone forgetful The other four sort of remember more involvement on the part of the Mayor's little boy, an aspiring politician if there ever was one.

But all agree on two things. One is that the infidels deserved it.

At some point in time, presumably after the torture began, one of them blasphemed Islam by praying to Jesus. Secondly, the Turkish prison is inhumane because they are in solitary confinement and are having trouble sleeping with lights on.

As to the latter point, one of the mothers of the victim pointed out that what was done to her son was inhumane.

She was told to "shut up".



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* Turkey Christian Missionaries Horrifically Tortured Before Killings
* Suspects in Turkish attack accuse each other
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Deep Fried Turkey Recipe, Texas Style

My mouth is watering already. If you haven't had a chance to savor deep fried turkey here is a terrific recipe.

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Featured in the November 1998 issue of Texas Monthly
Texas Deep-Fried Turkey

“I used to hate turkey because it’s always so dry,” says Grady Spears. But four years ago, the thirty-year-old chef had a change of heart: “That year we had Thanksgiving with True Redd, this artist who has a house on Caddo Lake, in East Texas. Everybody brought a dish, and True deep-fried a turkey. It was so moist that I just loved it.”

Equipment
1 turkey cooker with a propane burner (also called a catfish cooker or crawfish boiler)
1 36- to 40-quart stockpot and basket
1 large turkey injector with needle
1 deep-fryer thermometer or candy thermometer
elbow-length oven mitts

Cinnamon-Chile Rub
1/2 cup cinnamon
1/2 cup pasilla or other red chile powder
1/2 cup brown sugar
1/2 cup kosher salt

Combine all ingredients and mix well.

Turkey
4 to 6 gallons peanut oil (depending on size of stockpot and turkey)
3 1/2 cups chicken stock (two 14.5-ounce cans)
1/2 cup Tabasco sauce
1 turkey, 12 to 15 pounds (inside removed)
2 cups cinnamon-chile rub (recipe above)

Place the peanut oil in the stockpot on the turkey cooker and preheat to 350 degrees. Meanwhile, in a bowl combine the chicken stock and Tabasco. Place the turkey in a shallow pan or bowl. Fill the syringe with stock mixture, inject all parts of the turkey (legs, breast, thighs), and then thoroughly coat the outside of the turkey with the cinnamon-chile rub. When the oil reaches 350 degrees, place the turkey in the basket and, wearing oven mitts, carefully lower it into the stockpot. Cook for 3‡ minutes per pound (for example, a 12-pound turkey will be done in 42 minutes). Remove the turkey from the oil and drain well. Place it on your favorite platter and carve away.

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Texas Deep-Fried Turkey
(Most of you are thinking “Huh?” but trust me. Fried turkey is to die for and faster to cook than roasted or smoked turkey.)

1 (10- to 12-pound) turkey
2 teaspoons salt, or to taste
2 teaspoons pepper, or to taste
1 teaspoon cayenne pepper
4-5 gallons peanut oil

Rinse and dry turkey after removing innards from both ends. Generously season inside of cavity with spices. Heat oil to 350-375 degrees in an outdoor deep fryer. When oil is at the right temperature, use a strong twine or rope sling to lower the turkey into the fryer. (Wear goggles; this puppy may splatter.) Cook about five minutes per pound or until meat thermometer reaches 180 degrees.

For wild turkey, cook only four minutes per pound.

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Texas Deep-Fried Turkey

Our neighbors in Louisiana get the credit for Cajun-fried turkey, but Texans have embraced this cooking method as if it had come from deep in the heart. All the ingredients are there to make a Texan love it: The cooking is done outdoors, it requires special equipment, the turkey cooks fast, and it is fried.

Actually, anything as big as a turkey doesn’t exactly fry when immersed in hot oil; it boils. But the end result is a moist, tender bird with a golden skin. Done correctly, it is not greasy.

Like the smoked turkey, there are plenty of places to buy a Cajun-fried turkey in most major cities. Catfish restaurants particularly like to fry whole turkeys as a holiday sideline. But if you want to try it yourself, here’s how.
You’ll need an outdoor cooker, usually gas powered, with a cooking pot large enough to hold 4 or 5 gallons of peanut oil and a turkey. Catalogs for outdoor equipment as well as hardware and camping stores often carry turkey-frying kits, priced about $50. They are worth the investment because they include lifters to make removing the turkey easier and safer.

There are also injector kits with syringes to shoot marinade into the turkey meat before frying. Otherwise, ample seasoning with salt and pepper, perhaps some cayenne, inside the turkey will do nicely.

This is a particularly good technique for wild turkey, because it keeps the lean meat very moist. As always with wild game, avoid overcooking. And don’t let the scrawny appearance of the wild bird next to that plump domestic darling bother you. It doesn’t look like a textbook turkey, but it tastes great. Our neighbors in Louisiana get the credit for Cajun-fried turkey, but Texans have embraced this cooking method as if it had come from deep in the heart. All the ingredients are there to make a Texan love it: The cooking is done outdoors, it requires special equipment, the turkey cooks fast, and it is fried.

Actually, anything as big as a turkey doesn’t exactly fry when immersed in hot oil; it boils. But the end result is a moist, tender bird with a golden skin. Done correctly, it is not greasy.

Like the smoked turkey, there are plenty of places to buy a Cajun-fried turkey in most major cities. Catfish restaurants particularly like to fry whole turkeys as a holiday sideline. But if you want to try it yourself, here’s how.
You’ll need an outdoor cooker, usually gas powered, with a cooking pot large enough to hold 4 or 5 gallons of peanut oil and a turkey. Catalogs for outdoor equipment as well as hardware and camping stores often carry turkey-frying kits, priced about $50. They are worth the investment because they include lifters to make removing the turkey easier and safer.

There are also injector kits with syringes to shoot marinade into the turkey meat before frying. Otherwise, ample seasoning with salt and pepper, perhaps some cayenne, inside the turkey will do nicely.

This is a particularly good technique for wild turkey, because it keeps the lean meat very moist. As always with wild game, avoid overcooking. And don’t let the scrawny appearance of the wild bird next to that plump domestic darling bother you. It doesn’t look like a textbook turkey, but it tastes great.

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Turkey Bombs Iraq: PKK Positions Attacked

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The start of a new war? Or just guerrilla maneuvers against previous guerrilla maneuvers?

Bombs were dropped and the Turkish military crossed into Iraq. Tensions between Turkey and Iraq are heating up now. More from Big News Network:

Turkish warplanes and helicopters struck Kurdish rebel positions in northern Iraq as diplomatic efforts began Friday to defuse tensions about separatist bases in the region.

Turkey's state-run Anatolia news agency reports that Turkish aircraft attacked suspected rebel positions detected during reconnaissance missions.

Turkey has threatened to launch cross-border military operations against rebels of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, who have intensified attacks inside Turkey.

An Iraqi spokesman says the initial results of the talks in Ankara between an Iraqi delegation and senior Turkish officials were positive.

Turkey wanted nothing to do with Iraq when the target was Sadaam Hussein. Now that it's PKK rebels, tensions are near the breaking point on the Turkish side. This is not a condemnation of the Turks and the thorny PKK problem. Just an observation.

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PKK & Turkey: Iraq Takes Action PKK Offices Closed, Assets Frozen

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by Mondoreb

Iraq has just shut down PKK offices in Iraq and frozen their assets. This may help to de-escalate tensions in the on-going PKK problem with Turkey.

One now wonders: why wasn't this done before? Did it really have to take Turkey moving military units to the border and cross-border raids to move the Iraqis to action?

More from the AP:

Iraq's government, under growing pressure to crack down on Kurdish rebels using the country's north as a base for guerrilla attacks in Turkey, ordered their offices closed Tuesday and promised to curb their movements and block their funds.

Turkish troops were massing along the border, with military helicopters airlifting commando units into the area overnight. Earlier Tuesday in London, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned that his country cannot wait forever for the Iraqi government to move.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered the offices of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, known by its Turkish acronym PKK, closed, and said the government will "not allow it to work on Iraqi territory."

So a positive step has been taken. Will it be enough to calm the anger on the Turkish side? Does this reward actions, not words? Are the Turks also asking why this wasn't done before this?

This action by the Iraqis answers a few questions, but raises others. Hopefully, the right questions have been answered for now and a little breathing space achieved.




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Even Closer to the Brink: The New York Times Syndrome

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by Mondoreb

UPDATE:

The Turks move troops toward the border to deal with the PKK out of Iraq. This is a problem, but you just knew how the New York Times, ever the optimist, would handle the story.
1-It was Bush's fault; 2-The news out of Iraq is terrible; and, 3-It was Bush's fault. All that in the lead paragraph and then a bit of concern over what it all might mean.

The news out of Iraq just keeps getting worse. Now Turkey is threatening to send troops across the border to wipe out Kurdish rebel bases, after guerrillas killed at least a dozen Turkish soldiers. This latest crisis should have come as no surprise. But it is one more widely predicted problem the Bush administration failed to plan for before its misguided invasion — and one more problem it urgently needs to deal with as part of a swift and orderly exit from Iraq.

Wake Up America makes a good point about the Times' rigid adherence to their political agenda and their bottom line.

Previously we showed how the second biggest shareholder in the NYT dumped all their shares, we showed graphs of the last 2 and 5 yrs, showing their advertisers and readership going down the proverbial toilet as well as their paid service Times Select making so little they had to start offering it for free.

It is not only how they report the news or their refusal to report any news that doesn't fit their political agenda, but their lousy writers in the opinion section aka editorials.

Their subscribers and ex-readers have already voted on the Times' methods; perhaps the Time's stockholders are now doing the same.

This reporting of every problem as a fault of President Bush is one sign of the Times. Maybe it's a sort of NY Times Syndrome. On the subject of Iraq, the Times would spin the sudden discovery of an Iraqi Fountain of Youth into an insidious Bush plot to rid the world of old people.
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Turks, Kurds and the US: "Let the US Try and Stop Us"

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"Let the U.S. Try and Stop Us"
"Transform[ing] the Kurdish Dream into a Turkish Nightmare"
by Mondoreb

Another world problem promises to get thornier in a hurry. The Turks are tired of their soldiers being picked off as the U.S. works to head off an escalation on the Turkey-Iraq border. As more Turkish soldiers head to the border area, politicians on both sides seek a solution.

The troubles from the Kurdistan area that encompasses Iraq, Turkey and parts of several other countries are updated. From CNN:

Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan rejected reports of an apparent cease-fire offer from Kurdish separatists Tuesday after arriving in Baghdad for talks with Iraqi leaders aimed at defusing tensions along the countries' shared border.

Babacan was responding to Iraqi claims that the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which Turkey accuses of launching attacks on its territory from bases in Iraq, was ready to declare a unilateral truce.

But he said cease-fires were only possible between "states and regular forces," The Associated Press reported. "The problem here is that we're dealing with a terrorist organization."

Babacan's visit comes after U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and British Foreign Secretary David Miliband jointly urged Iraq to take "immediate steps" to prevent Kurdish separatists from carrying out attacks against Turkey.

There's obviously no easy answers here. The Turks want the incursions from the PKK to stop. This is entirely reasonable. If Canadian terrorists were coming across the US border and murdering civilians and soldiers, the outcry would be deafening. With the al-Qaeda problems abating in Iraq, the U.S. doesn't need another security worry. The Kurdish north of Iraq has been relatively quiet, but the PKK can't leave the Turks alone.

One hopes that a solution can be reached before more blood is shed, but it doesn't look very promising at this point.

Not helpful are voices like this:

"What if American F-16s come in front of us to block us? Let them try, that's their business. … Our targets will be on Barzani's military and economic targets. Our goal will be to transform the 'Kurdish dream' into a 'Turkish nightmare.'"

To say 'passions run deep on both sides' is an understatement. Strong passions on both sides are what war is all about.

UPDATE:

You just knew how the New York Times, ever the optimist, would handle this news. 1-It was Bush's fault; 2-The news out of Iraq is terrible; and, 3-It was Bush's fault. All that in the lead paragraph and then a bit of concern over what it might all mean.

The news out of Iraq just keeps getting worse. Now Turkey is threatening to send troops across the border to wipe out Kurdish rebel bases, after guerrillas killed at least a dozen Turkish soldiers. This latest crisis should have come as no surprise. But it is one more widely predicted problem the Bush administration failed to plan for before its misguided invasion — and one more problem it urgently needs to deal with as part of a swift and orderly exit from Iraq.

On the subject of Iraq, the Times would spin the sudden discovery of an Iraqi Fountain of Youth into an insidious Bush plot to rid the world of old people.



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Pelosi on Turkey: "Never A Good Time" Dem-Controlled House Plans Will Further Isolate the US in Middle East

What would Ataturk, father of modern Turkey do?
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by Mondoreb

Pressing forward to a resolution that makes life difficult for American and Turkish diplomats, Nancy Pelosi(D-CA) stated she was ready to move the House toward a vote on Armenian genocide. The issue is a sensitive one in Turkey which wasn't even a state when the Armenian actions occurred. The House action was, as Red State put it so succinctly, "the strange resolution, out-of-the-blue, on the Young Turks killing the Armenians, 1915-1917."

The resolution, which accomplishes nothing outside of straining US-Turkish relations, labels the death of more than a million Armenians during the first World War as genocide. This from the party which has unceasingly complained that President Bush has isolated the U.S. from its allies. From CNN:

"This resolution is one that is consistent with what our government has always said about ... what happened at that time," Pelosi said on ABC's "This Week."

When asked about criticism that it could harm relations with Turkey -- a key ally in the war in Iraq and a fellow member of NATO -- Pelosi said, "There's never been a good time," adding that it is important to pass the resolution now "because many of the survivors are very old."

"When I came to Congress 20 years ago, it wasn't the right time because of the Soviet Union. Then that fell, and then it wasn't the right time because of the Gulf War One. And then it wasn't the right time because of overflights of Iraq. And now it's not the right time because of Gulf War Two.

The resolution has strained U.S. relations with Turkey and drawn criticism from the Bush administration.

A key ally is angered for no reason other than political pandering. The anti-war Left and Democrats would make defending vital U.S. interests in the Persian Gulf much more difficult with passage of the resolution.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell(R-KY)reacted to House grand-standing.

Speaking later on ABC's "This Week," McConnell denounced the House committee's vote -- despite agreeing with the assertion that the killings amounted to genocide.

"I think it's a really bad idea for the Congress to be condemning what happened 100 years ago," the Kentucky Republican said Sunday. "We all know it happened. There's a genocide museum, actually, in Armenia to commemorate what happened.

"But I don't think the Congress passing this resolution is a good idea at any point. But particularly not a good idea when Turkey is cooperating with us in many ways, which ensures greater safety for our soldiers."

[AP photo]The timing of the resolution could be seen as throwing a bone of the anti-war portion of the Democrat Party. Many of the anti-war Left are upset with Democrats for not doing more to end the Iraq conflict. The Democrats, nervous about how such action will be perceived not only nationally, but by history, is taking a cavalier route to appeasing them.

As Jed Babbin puts it:

The Democrat leadership could write and pass legislation insisting the UN intervene to save the living instead of using the memory of the dead to score political points. In neither case should we intervene militarily. But the lack of concern for ongoing mass murder proves the Democrats’ only purpose is to enrage the Turkish government and end their cooperation on Iraq.

Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Tex.) told me, “We are a nation at war, and our first concern must always be the brave men and women of our armed forces, who I believe are done a great disservice by this symbolic House vote. This is just one more example of Democrats in the House being either oblivious or indifferent to the welfare of American forces serving in harm’s way.”

What Pelosi has said is inane. As far as "many of the survivors being old": they'd have to be. The youngest of any survivors would be near 90-years-old. The incidents occurred when the Ottoman Empire ruled the area, before a secular modern Turkey came into being in 1922-3.

No one is arguing that Armenians didn't die; they did, as well as Turks, too. The animosity in that region goes back centuries. What's at dispute is what good is accomplished with the House resolution, its timing and the political calculus of the Democrats in promoting it at this juncture.

If the resolution passes,the House Democrats will be offering US vital interests something other than some "Turkish Delight".



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Turkish General Warns of Damage:Danger! Democrat Foreign Policy At Work

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by Mondoreb

More evidence from the party that daily bashes U.S. foreign policy and can't get enough of the phrase "alienating countries all over the world". A grand-standing Democrat-controlled House committee voted to condemn U.S. ally, Turkey for events that happened almost 90 years ago--before modern Turkey was even a country.

From CNN:

ISTANBUL, Turkey-- Turkey's top general warned that ties with the U.S., already strained by attacks from rebels hiding in Iraq, will be irreversibly damaged if Congress passes a resolution that labels the World War I-era killings of Armenians a genocide.
Gen. Yasar Buyukanit told the daily Milliyet newspaper that a congressional committee's approval of the measure had already harmed ties between the two countries.

"If this resolution passed in the committee passes the House as well, our military ties with the U.S. will never be the same again," Buyukanit was quoted as saying.

"I'm the military chief; I deal with security issues. I'm not a politician," Buyukanit was quoted as saying by Milliyet. "In this regard, the U.S. shot its own foot."

It's repeated by the adult press over and over: actions have consequences. Yet Democrats' continue their obsession with preening for votes at the expense of U.S. interests; acting as if other countries take no notice of their actions. Another "Party of Jimmy Carter Moment", brought to you by the House Foreign Affairs Committee and the DNC.

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Turkey: The Latest US Ally to Discover "Treachery, Thy Name is Democrat"

by Mondoreb

What is it about Democrats that makes throwing an American ally under the bus so irresistible to them? It's as if Dems were teen-age boys on a Saturday night and any country supporting the U.S. is a rival standing in their way of the cute girl in the tight sweater.

The latest American interest to be sacrificed on the alter of Democratic special interest group pandering is Turkey. From CNN:

-- Turkey on Thursday recalled its ambassador to the United States and warned of repercussions in a growing dispute over congressional efforts to label the World War I era killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turkish forces "genocide."

The U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs passed the measure 27-21 Wednesday. President Bush and key administration figures lobbied hard against the measure, saying it would create unnecessary headaches for U.S. relations with Turkey.

Turkey -- now a NATO member and a key U.S. ally in the war on terror -- accepts Armenians were killed but call it a massacre during a chaotic time, not an organized campaign of genocide.

Anna explains:
[The House committee] passed a non-binding resolution condemning Turkey for the 1917 massacre of Armenians during World War I. What the resolution fails to acknowledge is the modern country of Turkey is not the same as the Ottoman Turkey country that did carry out the pogrom.

The Democrats wanted to make a statement about the Armenian genocide. But why anger a key U.S. ally over events of 88 years ago? Why now, at this paticular moment? The Turks would like to know too.

But, unlike the House Republicans under Bob Michael, pre-Contract with America, Turkey wasn't timid at tongue-lashing the Party whose symbol is an ass.

"Yesterday some in Congress wanted to play hardball," said Egemen Bagis, foreign policy adviser to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. "I can assure you Turkey knows how to play hardball.

But misery loves company and Turkey wouldn't be lonely. A quick look at the Dem agenda reveals a key component of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi & Company's political agenda is cutting off aid to another country important to American interests: Iraq. Democrats have a knack for, a history of and an uncontrollable urge for leaving countries who depend on the U.S. in the lurch.

Flashback: Viet Nam

From History News Network:
In the fall of 1974, Nixon resigned under the pressure of the Watergate scandal and was succeeded by Gerald Ford. Congress cut funding to South Vietnam for the upcoming fiscal year from a proposed 1.26 billion to 700 million dollars. These two events prompted Hanoi to make an all-out effort to conquer the South. As the North Vietnamese Communist Party Secretary Le Duan observed in December 1974: “The Americans have withdrawn…this is what marks the opportune moment.”

South Vietnam need our promised aid and Democrats voted to kill it. The results were the famous pictures of the last Americans leaving Saigon via helicopters--while another erstwhile America ally stood broken-hearted. The only comfort they get today are Democrat denials that their actions caused any mass killings of South Vietnamese.

And of course, Jimmy Carter--lately in the news for giving advice, historical insights and criticism of all things non-Carter--stepped up to the plate when the Shah of Iran, another solid U.S. ally, was in need of our help. Carter was called out on strikes, looking.

American Thinker explains:

When Carter became President he created a special Office of Human Rights which sent a letter to the Shah of Iran as a "polite reminder" of the importance of political rights and freedom. In response the Shah released over 350 Islamic fundamentalist prisoners who would later play roles in the Islamic Revolution and Iran Hostage crisis. Carter also ordered the Central Intelligence Agency to stop paying religious Mullahs over 4 million dollars in bribes. This monetary support was agreed upon, so the Mullahs would tone down their anti-Shah and anti-Western rhetoric.

Facing an Islamic revolution, the Shah appealed to Carter for help. On November 4, 1978 U.S. National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski called the Shah and said the United States would "back him to the hilt." This would never be the case. Brzezinski insisted to Carter that the U.S. must encourage the Shah to "brutally suppress the revolution". State Department officials believed Carter should reach out to the Revolutionaries in order to smooth the transition to a new government. This was a deciding moment in world history. Carter decided not to take either recommendation and to this very day, the world is suffering the consequences of his indecisiveness.

So really, if the Turkish ambassador had been studying his political history of the United States over the last 35 years, this week's action by the Democrat-controlled House committee should have come as no great surprise. He would have realized what history watchers already know: when there's a political calculus to be ciphered, Democrats figure U.S. allies as a zero.

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