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Friday, November 30, 2007
Thursday, November 29, 2007
Megan Meier MySpace Suicide: 30 Memorable Quotes
30 quotes from the people involved in the Megan Meier MySpace Suicide story and the media.
Megan, the 13-year-old daughter of Ron and Tina Meier, was the victim of harassment by "Josh", a boy she'd met at popular social site, MySpace. Upset at his messages, she hung herself.
"Josh" was later found to be a hoax, the fictional creation of Curt and Lori Drew, neighbors who lived down the street from the Meier's. "Josh" was created to by Lori Drew and her employee to monitor what Megan might be saying about the Drew's daughter after the two girls had a fight.
"Megan Meier is a slut. Megan Meier is fat." --bulletin posted at MySpace by "Josh" "Everybody in O'Fallon knows how you are. You are a bad person and everybody hates you. Have a shitty rest of your life. The world would be a better place without you." --Josh's last message to Megan, according to Ron Meier's best recollection "They are all being so mean to me." --Megan Meier, to her mom, on the day of her death "I grabbed her as she tried to go by," Ron says. "She told me that some kids were saying horrible stuff about her and she didn't understand why." --Ron Meier right about what happened right before Megan took her life. "She did sit here in my living room and confess everything to me. She told me that they had pulled an image of a boy off the Internet and that they had created an account using the name of Josh Evans, and she said she knew the last message that left her house that Monday when Megan attempted her life was that, 'The world would be a better place without you". --an unnamed neighbor about how she learned Lori Drew was behind the hoax "That is what makes it even more disgusting, that she knew the circumstances around our daughter and still played on it," --Ron Meier, Megan's father “These people were supposed to be our friends.” --Tina Meier, about their neighbors, the Drews "Give it a rest. Give it a rest." --Curt and Lori Drew, reportedly to the Meiers, when confronted by the Meier parents "You cannot as an adult sit there and do that and hide behind a computer. It is a criminal act. We want to see her go to jail," ---Tina Meier, Megan's mother, about Lori Drew "It's time that we do something against this. On all levels, the state and federal level," --Dardenne Prairie Mayor Pam Fogarty, on the need for stricter laws for Internet harassment "Coincidentally, two months after Megan's suicide, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) reported that antidepressants double the risk of suicidal behavior in young adults. (Psychiatrists have disputed the FDA report.)" --Jeff , from a post at "Megan's Vigilantes" "We were concerned about the daughter [of the Drews] and to what extent she was involved and dragged along with this." --Dave Bundy, editorial director of Lee Enterprises, the newspaper group that includes several papers who broke the Megan Meier story; on why his papers decided not to name the Drews. "She [Lori Drew] is not being accused in a court of law, she is not being sued and our take is that we don’t run suspects unless charges are filed." --Steve Pokin, reporter who wrote the original Megan Meier story. "I posted that — where Curt works. I'm not ashamed to admit that. Why? Because there's never been any sense of remorse or public apology from the Drews, no 'maybe we made a mistake.' " --Trevor Buckles, 40, a neighbor whose two teenage boys grew up with Meier. "We're all in shock. If I have anything to say about it, we'll never have our hands tied legally like this again." --Mayor Fogerty "There are enough details for people to find out who it is on their own. They are free to do so. It was a judgment call. I think there were a lot of other issues at stake." --Pokin, on his critics for his not revealing the Drew's name in his stories. "We believe that all the publicity about this situation has led to an air of vigilantism. We're concerned people will take things into their own hands." --Lt. Craig McGuire of the St. Charles County Sheriff's Department “Give me a break; that’s nothing. But it’s the most we could do. People are saying to me, ‘Let’s go burn down their house.’” --Mayor Pam Fogarty said of the penalties imposed by the town of Dardenne Prairie, MO on cyber harassment. It's now punishable by up to a $500 fine and 90 days in jail. "Ms. Drew used the same same exact mode of operation as a child predator enacts in the seduction of a child. Drew posed as a member of the opposite sex and spent weeks and weeks luring this girl into a relationship. But yet it went further. The adult Drew formed a heated relationship with the 13 year old girl. She worked hard to gain the girl's confidence. She exploited the girl intimately by posing as a boyfriend. Do you really thing there was no intimate grooming going on?" --online comment by DanCnKC "Oh and I don't think Lori Drew is so evil as everyone says. Megan was a total bitch to everyone around her especially Laura so if I was her mom I would be mad at Megan too and I would check up on her to see what shit she was spreading about my daughter." --"Kristen", author of "Megan Had it Coming" blog. "Lori Drew is a psychopath. That part is clear. But more disturbing than that are the actions of authorities: If it had been an adult MALE that "carried on" in a sexually explicit way with a 13 year old girl, even if it WERE for the purposes of revenge for his teen daughter, he'd be locked up as a pedophile." --online comment by Danny Vice "Every story has two sides and if you don't think so - then I hope you are never tried and convicted in your own court." --JennaD, from a comment posted on "Megan Had it Coming" blog "All we feel is frustration, anger. For months, we've been asking ourselves, 'What mother in her right mind would do this? And why won't the cops do anything to punish them? We just want them gone." --neighbor Kristie Kriss, of the Drews "The woman emotionally raped this child. She took her supposed love and sexual stimulation and crushed the girl emotionally with them. This girl was mentally raped [by] a mother and her employee. This adult and her friends played this girl into an emotional high... and then pulled the plug when it would inflict the highest possible damage. It took 4 months of planning." --online comment by DanCnKC "So nobody in the news talks about what Megan the bitch was like so now you know. Oh and don't bother trying to figure out who I am. Unlike Megan, I DO have a boyfriend and he knows computers and he totally covered my tracks." --"Kristen", author of "Megan Had it Coming" blog "Lori Drew groomed her victim like many child predators do, enticing her with flirtation, mild sexual conversation and playing on Megan's weakness. Lori knew that Megan had a low self esteem and was treated for depression. Outing Child Predators has been public policy in most states and is usually upheld under the premise that the public has a right to reasonably protect itself from criminal behavior where it exists. Families with children have a right to know when those who might prey upon their child, live nearby. Public policy dictates that if a child is exposed to potential harm from predatory activity, then parents should at least have the opportunity to be aware such harm may exist." --online comment by Danny Vice "It's not to say if only Megan (spoke out/did this/did that/reached out), it's to say there has to be more positive and supportive role models out there for our youth. The parents can only do so much. My solution: it's time to stop the "code of silence." It's time to not be afraid to speak up when something is wrong." --online comment by Jo "Megan's story really won't matter; some writers will bend it to fit their preconceived point of view. It'll not be about Megan to them: it'll be about using her as a tool to advance their cause. Laws for regulating the Internet; for stricter controls on what can be said online; to raise money; that any negative reactions are 'vigilantism'; for more money for suicide prevention: take your pick. They'll all invoke the name and story of Megan Meier. To most of those, she'll cease to be a 13-year-old schoolgirl: she'll be a slogan." --RE Bierce, commenting the first week of the story on future likely reactions. “There are no words to explain my rage.” --Tina Meier by Mondoreb |
Sources:
Parents Want Jail Time for MySpace Hoax Mom - ABC News
New York Times - A Hoax Turned Fatal Draws Anger but No Charges
Missouri Weeklies That Broke 'MySpace Suicide ' Story Still Won't Name Alleged 'Cyberbully'
-Editor & Publisher
Megan's Vigilantes blog
Megan Had it Comingblog
"Frontier Justice in an online World?"- Seattle Times
"Megan Meier MySpace Suicide: Reactions to the Reactions" - Death by 1000 Papercuts blog
Weekly Vice blog
"MySpace Cruel Hoax Leads to Teen's Suicide" - Death by 1000 Papercutsblog
DBKP.com - Bigger, Better!.
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Wednesday, November 28, 2007
Megan Meier MySpace Suicide:
Complete DBKP Story and Video Listing
by Mondoreb & Little Baby Ginn
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Saturday, November 24, 2007
Megan Meier: One More Prayer for Megan
Tonight's candlelight vigil held for Megan Meier in the town where she died, is to honor her memory after her story became known nationwide.
The vigil's announcement was received by us and was held for a few hours while we tried to authenticate it. It was signed "A message from Tina Meier, Megan's mom". After several hours, we decided to publish it.
The message was as follows:
The message ends on a hopeful note and there's a wish we'd like to make: that many people will show up to honor Megan.
This is Megan's mom, Tina Meier, and I wanted to update everyone on the details for the candlelight vigil for Saturday, November 24, 2007.
*We are meeting at 6:00 p.m. at the Fort Zumwalt West Middle school parking lot.
*Please bring a candle, cup to hold the candle and something to light the candle. (If you cut a small X in the bottom of the cup, you can slide the candle through it and then you won't have wax dripping on you)
*We will then light the candle's shortly after 6:00 p.m. and start walking from the school down Waterford crystal drive towards Megan's house and end up in front of the Drew's house.
*There is a common ground area across the street and we will have pa system and microphone. if anyone would like to speak, read a poem, etc., they are more than welcome.
*This wonderful idea came from students who wanted to see justice for Megan and for that we are so happy. Nothing we can do will bring Megan back, but we can all learn from Megan and take a part of her with us everyday for the rest of our lives to try to be a better person and think about things we say to people before we say them!
*****Remember this is a peaceful candlelight vigil******
We hope to see everyone there!
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By now, many are familiar with the story of Megan's bouts of depression, her online harassment--after meeting and later being rejected--by a boy she knew as Josh Evans at Internet social site, MySpace.
Her suicide, the result of vicious comments posted by Josh and his friends, drove her to take her life. The discovery six weeks after her death, by her parents, that Josh was the creation of a neighbor, Lori Drew, shocked readers.
Explored were the reasons and motives of an adult stalking a 13-year-old for six weeks online, the outrage by both the mainstream press, Internet bloggers and the reading public.
Controversy arose concerning the question of whether or not Drew's name should have been released in the original story by Suburban Journals reporter Steve Pokin.
Hours were spent last weekend as editorials squared off in a New Media-Old Media shouting match. In the end, the name of Lori Drew and her accomplice were released online; gathered momentum and finally released in the mainstream press.
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This candlelight vigil, announced last night, is the latest chapter in a story which had many sad twists.
The vigil is a fitting way to honor Megan Meier, a girl who never had the chance to realize the fullness of life. It is a much better way to remember her than all of the words flung back and forth during the controversy that swirled around her name.
She died after a hoax, concocted by adults for unfathomable reasons.
The fact that she was a 13-year-old girl may have been obscured for awhile by those who wrote about her; it's doubtful that that fact was ever far from her parents' mind during the last 13 months.
After everything: she was still a 13-year-old girl who liked to chat with boys, worried about her weight and got excited when she got a message online from someone she liked.
She was still the 13-year-old daughter of Ron and Tina Meier.
Hopefully, the vigil will remind people that after the shocking story was told and the reactions died down, that this was still the story of Megan Meier: neighbor, friend, schoolmate, daughter.
Last weekend around the country, whether at home or on the Internet, people gathered to discuss the story they were discovering: the story of Megan Meier.
Tonight, friends and neighbors and perhaps, a few strangers, will gather together for a reflective walk with a candle. They will say a few words; perhaps someone will read a poem, and tears will be shed.
Tonight people who knew her will gather together:
To say one more prayer for Megan Meier.
by Mondoreb
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Megan Meier MySpace Suicide: A Message From Megan's Mother, Tina Meier
We received this message post to our website within the last few hours. It was signed "A Message from Tina Meier" and the heading was the same.
It is an announcement of a candlelight vigil tomorrow night at 6 pm.
It is a "peaceful candlelight vigil" and details items for those wishing to participate: a candle, cup to hold the candle and something to light the candle.
It also gives information on the route and calls for anyone who wants to speak, read a poem or say something to honor Megan Meier to step forward at tomorrow night's event.
The complete text of the message follows:
This is Megan's mom, Tina Meier, and I wanted to update everyone on the details for the candlelight vigil for Saturday, November 24, 2007.
*We are meeting at 6:00 p.m. at the Fort Zumwalt West Middle school parking lot.
*Please bring a candle, cup to hold the candle and something to light the candle. (If you cut a small X in the bottom of the cup, you can slide the candle through it and then you won't have wax dripping on you)
*We will then light the candle's shortly after 6:00 p.m. and start walking from the school down Waterford crystal drive towards Megan's house and end up in front of the Drew's house.
*There is a common ground area across the street and we will have pa system and microphone. if anyone would like to speak, read a poem, etc., they are more than welcome.
*This wonderful idea came from students who wanted to see justice for Megan and for that we are so happy. Nothing we can do will bring Megan back, but we can all learn from Megan and take a part of her with us everyday for the rest of our lives to try to be a better person and think about things we say to people before we say them!
*****Remember this is a peaceful candlelight vigil******
We hope to see everyone there!
The candlelight vigil is a fitting way to honor Tina's daughter, Megan, who was the subject of attention over the last ten days, when her story became known nationwide.
Although we cannot make it ourselves, DBKP would like to send along the thoughts and prayers of the entire staff.
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Sunday, November 18, 2007
Megan Meier MySpace Suicide: CNN Transcript: Parents Told
"Give it A Rest"
"Give it A Rest"
Megan Meier's parent were interviewed at CNN. A partial transcript of the interview with Ron and Tina Meier follows.
As the names of those who created the fake "Josh" character which led to Megan's suicide become widely known (Google the mother's name and you get almost 2 million references), the MySpace Suicide story will shift to whether they should be named at all. Another aspect will be the possible public backlash.
CNN Transcript of Interview with Megan Meier's Parents
AZUZ: And teachers, that's why we urge you to preview this segment, which discusses a teenager's suicide. Now, bullying has been around for a long time, and we've probably all seen some form of it: kids getting picked on for what they wear, something they say, sometimes for no reason at all. With social networking sites, bullying has moved online. Gary Tuchman tells us the tragic story of one teen who became the object of this kind of cyber-harassment.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GARY TUCHMAN, CNN REPORTER: What happened here is horrifying. Why it might have happened will leave you incredulous.
TINA MEIER, MOTHER: She was just a good girl.
TUCHMAN: Tina Meier of suburban St. Louis is the mother of Megan Meier, who had lived a challenging childhood.
MEIER: She got bullied in school, and she had big self esteem issues, and she had struggled with depression since she was in the 3rd grade.
TUCHMAN: Megan's mother and father allowed her to set up a MySpace account under their supervision, and said their 13-year-old swooned when she got her first affectionate note ever from a boy named Josh Evans.
MEIER: He thought she was really pretty. Posted on her comments on her pictures. This is beautiful, your eyes are beautiful.
TUCHMAN: For about a month, Josh sent her instant messages saying things like, "Lucky me and lucky u...cause you're my number one." But Megan's mother and father started getting suspicious because, although the notes were not explicit, their parental instinct told them something wasn't right.
MEIER: I did contact the police department. I asked to be transferred to the cybercrimes division to see how I could check to see if this MySpace account is real. Nothing you can do.
TUCHMAN: And then one day....
MEIER: It was a whirlwind. It was Josh saying horrible things to Megan; Megan saying things back to him.
TUCHMAN: Nasty messages from a boy who just a day before meant everything to this lonely girl. One in particular cut deep.
RON MEIER, MEGAN'S FATHER: The world would be better off place without you, and have a EXPLETIVE rest of your life.
TUCHMAN: Megan was distraught beyond words.
MEIER: This is the part I'll never forgive myself for, because she was looking for me to help calm her down like I always did and be there for her. And I was upset with her because I didn't like the language she was using, and I was upset that she didn't listen to me sign off when I told her to. I was aggravated with her and that and told her she knew better. She just said to me, "You're supposed to be my mom, you're supposed to be on my side," and she took off running upstairs.
TUCHMAN: It was too quiet for too long in that upstairs bedroom. Megan was pronounced dead the next day. When Ron Meier came home from the hospital, he wanted to find Josh Evans, let him know what he had done to his little girl. The first place he tried to look was Josh's MySpace page.
RON: He was deleted. The whole Josh Evans no longer existed.
TUCHMAN: A month passed as the Meiers struggled with their grief, seaching for answers why their daughter went to such extremes and who was the boy that drove her there. Then a neighbor told them something stunning: Josh Evans was actually the creation of a mother who lived on the same block as the Meiers, a mother who actually went to Megan's funeral. According to an official police report, that mother acknowledged it, the report saying, "In the months leading up to Meier's daughter's suicide, she instigated and monitored a MySpace account which was created for the sole purpose of communicating with Meier's daughter." The Meiers were told that the other family wanted to find out from Megan why she was having a dispute with their own 13-year-old daughter.
RON: It's as if my daughter killed herself with a gun, and it's as if they loaded the gun for her.
TUCHMAN: We are not reporting the name of the other family to protect the identity of their daughter, but did go to their home to try and get their side of the story.
TUCHMAN: Is anybody home?
TUCHMAN: The woman's father answered the door. In a soft voice, the grandfather said it was sad, but then would not say if he thought the police report was wrong.
TUCHMAN: Have you talked to these people since then?
MEIER: Yes, I have.
TUCHMAN: What have you said to them?
MEIER: Probably things that I can't say on camera.
TUCHMAN: And what did they say back to you?
RON/TINA: Give it a rest. Give it a rest.
We think it's entirely natural for people reading about the Megan Meier story to experience outrage and shock.
We do not, however, think it is natural for vigilante justice to come into play. The punishment these people will or will not receive is not to be meted out by anyone experiencing anger. That's what the courts are for.
It is worse that reports we've read indicate they feel no remorse for their actions. DBKP will address that issue in a later story. From the above transcript, these reports appears to be true.
In our view, one punishment is: they will have to live with the knowledge of what they did the rest of their lives.
Some will argue that this may not bother the hoaxers. That may be true. But there is one thing those people might think about. Anyone who did this kind of thing to a 13-year-old girl will not make good choices in other matters. We would hope that is not true, but experience argues against it.
They have already received the worst punishment: they are condemned to live the rest of their lives as themselves.
by Mondoreb
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