McCain: The NY Times Has Found Some Torture It Can Ignore

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Proud progressive, Irony Curtain, of the KG3, has noticed the capitalist media barons at the NY Times enthusiastically support the elimination of the imperialist torture community at Guantanamo Bay in glorious Cuba.

However, his fine, forward-looking eye has also noticed that the imperialist lackeys at the Times has exhibited the good judgment to "look the other way" on tortures carried out by Cuba's comrades in the Workers' Paradise of Vietnam.

As always, we thank Stalin for calling this to our attention.


by Irony Curtain, of the KG3
Source/image: Torture That The New York Times Can Ignore

Kill 'Em With Kindness: American Troops Torture Children

HOW DID THE MEDIA MISS THESE?

NOW First Time!

The CHILLING Photos
the Mainstream Media Doesn't Want You to See!

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Armed American Troops Force Iraqis to Seesaw Until They Talk!




Iraqi Child Bites GI In Self Defense After Obvious Torture!




GI Falls Asleep On Duty While Using Iraqi Child As Body Armor!




GI Overheard to say 'Talk or I'll tickle you till you pee!'




More Evidence Of Failed US Intelligence Policy. Soldier Attempts to Eat Iraqi Child !




Clear Evidence of Forced Labor by Troops!




Iraqis Grateful That American Forces Did Not Open Fire During Soccer Game!




Soldier Caught At 'Tickle-Torture' To Extract Intelligence!




GI Forces Iraqi Child To Hang By Fingertips!




No comment here.There's nothing funny about this one.


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Today in History: January 2, 2008

WAR!, SPORTS, TERRORISM, TORTURE, POLITICS, ABOLITION, CENSURE, SCIENCE, ENGINEERING, DISASTER, MASSACRES, ALLIGATORS, CIVIL RIGHTS, TRIALS, MUSIC, RIOTS, MAINSTREAM MEDIA, NANNY STATE, OVERDOSE, CAMELOT, CLIMATE CHANGE, JEWS, POPULATION, PROFESSIONAL WRESTING, BORN, DEATH, FINANCE



1839 1st photo of the Moon (French photographer Louis Daguerre).

WAR!

1492 Spain recaptures Granada from the Moors (Granada Day).

1570 Tsar Ivan the Terrible march to Novgorod begins.

1602 Spanish forces in Ireland surrender to the English at Kinsdale.

1757 British troops occupy Calcutta India.

1776 1st revolutionary flag displayed.

1861 SC seizes inactive Fort Johnson in Charleston Harbor.

1863 Battle of Murfreesboro (Stone's River) ends.

1896 Battle at Doornkop, South Africa (Boers beat Dr Jamesons troops).

1905 Japanese troops capture Port Arthur.

1942 German troops in Bardia surrender.

1942 Japanese troops occupy Manila Philippines.

1944 1st use of helicopters during warfare (British Atlantic patrol).

1945 Allied air raid on Neurenberg.

TERRORISM

1923 Ku Klux Klan surprise attack on black residential area Rosewood FL, 8 killed. (compensation awarded in 1995).

1923 Sam Carter black resident of Rosewood FL, lynched by KKK.

1932 Young gang shoot dead 6 police in Springfield Missouri.

SPORTS

1989 Notre Dame beats West Virginia for college football championship.

TORTURE

1776 Austria ends interrogation torture.

POLITICS

1788 Georgia is 4th state to ratify US constitution.

ABOLITION

1800 Free black community of Philadelphia PA petitions Congress to abolish slavery.

1831 Liberator, abolitionist newspaper, begins publishing in Boston.

CENSURE

1811 US Senator Thomas Pickering is 1st senator censured (revealed confidential documents communicated by the President of the US).

SCIENCE

1905 Elara, a satellite of Jupiter, discovered by Perrine.

1936 1st electron tube to enable night vision described, St Louis MO.

1972 Mariner 9 begins mapping Mars.

1995 Most distant galaxy yet discovered found by scientists using Keck telescope in Hawaii (estimated 15 billion light years away).

ENGINEERING

1842 1st US wire suspension bridge for general traffic opens in Pennsylvania.

DISASTER

1879 British battleship Thunder explodes in Gulf of Ismid, 9 die.

1971 A barrier collapses at Ibrox Park football ground at end of a soccer match in Glasgow Scotland, killing 66.

1995 Bus crashes in Luzon Philippines, 29 killed.

1974 Worst fire in Argentine history destroys 1.2 million acres.

1988 Ashland Oil storage tank spills 3.8 million gallons, Pennsylvania.

MASSACRES

1885 General Wolseley receives last distress signal of General Gordon in Khartoum.

ALLIGATORS

1890 Record 19'2" alligator shot in Louisiana by E A McIlhenny.

CIVIL RIGHTS

1903 President T Roosevelt shuts down post office in Indianola MI, for refusing to accept its appointed postmistress because she was black.

1965 Martin Luther King Jr begins a drive to register black voters.

1984 Wilson Goode, sworn-in as Philadelphia's 1st black mayor.

TRIALS

1935 Bruno R Hauptmann trial begins for kidnap-murder of Lindbergh baby.

1979 Sid Vicious' trial for murder of girlfriend Nancy Spingen begins.

MUSIC

1900 E Verlinger begins manufacturing 7" single-sided records (Montréal).

1978 Rhino Records releases their 1st album "Wildmania".

RIOTS and REBELLIONS

1919 Anti-British uprising in Ireland.

1981 Sylvester Clarke knocks out spectator with brick, West Indies vs Pakistan.

1984 Riot in Tunis kills over 100.

1994 Battles between army & rebellious Indians in South Mexico, kill 57.

MAINSTREAM MEDIA

1921 1st religious service radio broadcast in US, KDKA-Pittsburgh.

1949 KDKA TV channel 2 in Pittsburgh, PA (CBS) begins broadcasting.

NANNY STATE

1934 1st state liquor stores open, in Pennsylvania.

1974 55 MPH speed limit imposed by Richard Nixon.

OVERDOSE

1998 Autopsy of Chris Farley shows he overdosed of opiates & cocaine.

CAMELOT

1960 Senator John F Kennedy, announces his candidacy for President.

CLIMATE CHANGE

1961 Hawaii's, then all time low temperature, 14ºF recorded atop Haleakale.

JEWS

1966 1st Jewish child born in Spain since 1492 expulsion.

POPULATION

1970 US population is 205,052,174; Black population 22,600,000 (11.1%).

FINANCE

1986 191.66 million shares traded in New York Stock Exchange.

1990 Dow Jones hits record 2,800 (2,810.15).


PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING

1990 Sting joins wrestlings 4 Horsemen (Flair, Arn Anderson, Ole Anderson).

BORN

1727 James Wolfe commanded British Army (captured Québec)
1861 Helen Herron Taft 1st lady (1909-13)
1863 Lucia Zarate became lightest known adult human (2.1 kg at 17)
1920 Isaac Asimov Russia, scientist/writer (I Robot, Foundation Trilogy)
1928 Dan Rostenkowski (Representative-D-IL, -94), House Ways & Means Committee chair
1932 Dabney Coleman Austin Texas, (That Girl, Mary Hartman, Buffalo Bill)
1936 Roger Miller Fort Worth TX, country singer (King of the Road, Dang Me)
1938 John Considine actor (Reginald Love-Another World)
1939 Jim Bakker televangelist (PTL Club)/philanderer (Jessica Hahn)
1952 Ricky Van Shelton Grit VA, country singer (Wild-Eyed Dream)
1964 Pernell Whitaker boxer (Olympics-gold)
1968 Cuba Gooding Jr actor (Jerry McGuire, As Good As It Gets, Boyz N the Hood, A Few Good Men)
1969 Christy Turlington San Francisco CA, model (Calvin Klein Eternity)

DEATH

1904 James Longstreet Confederate General, dies at 82
1963 Dick Powell actor/director (Dick Powell Theater), dies at 58
1974 Tex Ritter country singer (5 Star Jubilee), dies at 67
1977 Erroll Garner jazz pianist (Misty), dies at 53
1990 Alan Hale Jr actor (Skipper Jonas Grumby-Gilligan's Island), dies of cancer at 71
1994 Caesar Romero actor (Joker-Batman), dies at 86

January 2, 2008, the 2nd day of the year. There are 364 days left in the year.

compiled by Mondoreb
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Source: Today in History





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Tortured Dog and Gun: Is Press Romance with Huckabee Over?

In this booking photo released by the Pulaski County Sheriff's office, David Huckabee, 26,

a son of former Arkansas Gov, and Republican presidential hopeful Mike

Huckabee, is shown in Little Rock, Ark., Thursday, April 26, 2007.

David Huckabee was arrested at Little Rock's airport Thursday after a

federal X-ray technician detected a loaded Glock pistol in his carry-on

luggage. (AP Photo/Pulaski County Sheriff)

Mike Huckabee has found that along with press love comes press scrutiny.

Touted with headlines such as the "surging" Huckabee, the "Huckabee support strong" and "Surprising Huckabee", Huckabee's campaign has to now deal with the "A Son's Past Deeds Come Back to Bite Huckabee" headline and story at Newsweek.

Under the mug shot from the Pulaski County Sheriff's Department of son, David, is a story detailing Jr. Huckabee's past run-ins with the law: allegations of torturing and hanging a stray dog, being arrested with a pistol at the Arkansas Airport and allegations that dad Mike leaned on some people to keep the dog story from escalating.

One issue likely to get attention is his handling of a sensitive family matter: allegations that one of his sons was involved in the hanging of a stray dog at a Boy Scout camp in 1998. The incident led to the dismissal of David Huckabee, then 17, from his job as a counselor at Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, Ark.

It also prompted the local prosecuting attorney— bombarded with complaints generated by a national animal-rights group—to write a letter to the Arkansas state police seeking help investigating whether David and another teenager had violated state animal-cruelty laws. The state police never granted the request, and no charges were ever filed.

But John Bailey, then the director of Arkansas's state police, tells NEWSWEEK that Governor Huckabee's chief of staff and personal lawyer both leaned on him to write a letter officially denying the local prosecutor's request.

Bailey, a career officer who had been appointed chief by Huckabee's Democratic predecessor, said he viewed the lawyer's intervention as improper and terminated the conversation. Seven months later, he was called into Huckabee's office and fired. "I've lost confidence in your ability to do your job," Bailey says Huckabee told him.

One reason Huckabee cited was "I couldn't get you to help me with my son when I had that problem," according to Bailey. "Without question, [Huckabee] was making a conscious attempt to keep the state police from investigating his son," says I. C. Smith, the former FBI chief in Little Rock, who worked closely with Bailey and called him a "courageous" and "very solid" professional.

There have been whispers that Huckabee advocates have dropped phone messages to voters questioning candidate Mitt Romney's Mormon faith. Huckabee himself made a sly remark that implied that Romney believed Jesus and Satan were brothers.

Questions cut both ways: now questions are popping up about Huckabee's son and Huckabee's involvement in quashing an investigation.

Perhaps the allegations are nothing more than rumors or sly remarks from rival campaigns. Either way, the national press is now paying attention to them.

As we earlier stated in articles, Huckabee is just the latest in a long line of 'media darlings'. When the press ends its fickle love affair, often times the break-up is acrimonious.

Newsday's article on David Huckabee's past troubles may be the latest proof.

by Mondoreb
[image:ap;megahurt]
Source: A Son's Past Deeds Comes Back to Bite Huckabee



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Baby Grace, Riley Sawyers: Additional Charges, Additional Questions

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."--Albert Einstein

2-year-old Riley Sawyers was savagely and repeatedly beaten and tortured until she was dead. The punishment was inflicted on her by her alleged mother--the one person a defenseless toddler turns to for protection and comfort.

Kimberly Dawn Trenor and her accomplice/boyfriend/husband completed their vile deed and then stashed the little girl's body in a storage shed. After many days, they took a trip to buy their Wal-Mart version of Riley's casket: a cooler commonly used for picnics.

At that moment, Trenor's mothering instinct apparently asserted itself: Riley Sawyer's body was found wrapped in plastic and laid in her temporary resting place. It was set adrift in Galveston Bay, to be found on a sandbar by a fisherman.

It's a mystery why they treated Riley's body more gently after she was dead than when she was living through what must have been her last confused, hurting, terror-filled moments.

Her mother described to police how she "beat the child with leather belts and held her head under water in the bathtub. She said Zeigler picked the girl up by her hair and also threw her across the room, slamming her head into the tile floor."

Speculation

The charges currently against the pair consist of tampering with evidence and injuring the child. What additional charges they face is speculation at this moment.

The final scene described by Trenor is one where acts were committed that were devoid of any human emotion.

That would seem to rule out various "done in haste" or "in the heat of the moment" defenses. What the charges will be and what kind of defense will be offered, if any, is again speculation.

Zigler reportedly tried to end his life last week as the police closed in, leaving behind a note that "his wife was not responsible". He was less successful at ending his own life than that of his companion's 2-year-old.

Was that an attempt at achieving a nobility in death that was missing in his life?

The questions heard most often asked by readers who emailed or commented at this point: How could a mother do this to her baby? Why did it have to be so violent? Why not give the child to someone who loved her?

It's hard to say why little Riley death was so gruesome.

If the child was a bother, why not contact the grandmother in Ohio or the father?

Both made repeated efforts to contact Kimberly Dawn Trenor.

There has been talk of a custody struggle between the Kimberly Dawn Trenor and Riley's father.

The final sadistic acts committed on the person of Riley Sawyers are easier to understand if Riley isn't viewed as a human being; as a little, defenseless child.

Those acts are a little easier to understand if one sees her two-year-old daughter, Riley Sawyers, not as most would view her--a helpless toddler, crying out in fear and panic at her final treatment--but as Kimberly Dawn Trenor apparently saw her.

Not as a child, but as a pawn.

by Mondoreb

Sources:
Mother's Grim Tale of Abuse and Death
Toddler Tortured: Little Riley Never Had a Chance




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Baby Grace, Riley Sawyers: Mother's Grim Tale of Abuse and Death

Major Ray Tuttoilmondo, Galveston County

Sheriff's Department (James Nielson: Chronicle)

The grim details of the last days of little Riley "Baby Grace" Sawyers life have begun to emerge.

From today's Galveston County Daily News:

In an interview, Kimberly Dawn Trenor, 19, of Spring, told investigators that she and her husband, Royce Clyde Zeigler, 24, beat her daughter with two leather belts the morning of July 24, an affidavit says.

They also held her head underwater in the bathtub and Zeigler picked her up by her hair and threw her across the room, slamming her head into tile floor, the affidavit says.

An autopsy on Oct. 30 found that the child had three skull fractures on the back of her head.

The pair also smothered the girl by pushing her face into a pillow in her room and into the cushions of a couch, the affidavit says.

Trenor told investigators that, during the beating, her husband gave the girl child’s pain medication and covered her with a purple towel after she was dead, the affidavit says. [1]

Kimberly and Royce went to Walmart for the specific purpose of picking out a "suitable" container to dispose of little Riley's dead body. One can imagine the two walking the fluorescent lit aisles, looking at various sized plastic containers until choosing the "right" one.

They then wrapped her in plastic and placed her in a blue plastic tote. They put the tote out in a storage shed in the backyard of their Spring home. The authorities are not quite sure how long little Riley's body was kept there, anywhere from one to two months.



One could see Kimberly looking out the kitchen window to the storage shed where her daughter's body lay while she washed the dishes or cooked dinner. Of Royce mowing the lawn or waving to the neighbors, the children who played in the yards next door. Of Kimberly and Royce talking in quiet whispers, discussing where they could take Riley, where no one would ever find the evidence of what they had done.

The couple took the remains in their car and tossed them into the water near the Galveston Causeway, the affidavit says.

On Oct. 29, a fisherman found the plastic bin with the little girl inside.[1]

When the plastic storage tote containing Riley's body was found resting on a sand bar the Galveston County Sheriff's Department took over the investigation. They found her wrapped in plastic, she wore a little pink skirt and matching blouse, little tennis shoes that flashed bright lights from the heels. No one had reported a little girl missing. No one knew who this little girl in the plastic tote was. They released a composite sketch of Riley and dubbed her "Baby Grace." [2]


Did Kimberly and Royce see the newspaper and media reports about the unidentified "Baby Grace" case? Did they discuss the case with neighbors? Did they believe that dumping Riley's body into Galveston Bay would be the end, that somehow, they would be in the clear?

They both sit in Galveston County Jail. One wonders what possible defense their attorney's will present. Bets are, they'll soon point the finger of blame at each other.

[1] - Galveston County Daily News
[2] - Baby Grace and the Little Lost Girl, Riley Sawyers

By LBG



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Baby Grace, Riley Sawyers Mother Beat, Tortured Toddler "Little Riley Never Had a Chance"

Kimberly Trenor: Mother savagely beat her 2-year-old daughter

UPDATE: 00:22 EST 11-27-07 AP: Zeigler attempted suicide last week:

Zeigler attempted suicide last week and wrote a note saying, "My wife is innocent of the sins that I committed," according to the court documents, which were filed Saturday and first reported Monday by Houston television station KTRK.

"Little Riley Sawyers never had a chance".

That was one staff reaction after reading the gruesome details of the last days of 2-year-old Riley Sawyers and the trauma she underwent.

A picture of a mother beating and torturing her 2-year-old toddler with help from the step-father has just emerged from police records.

The last days of the little girl were not pleasant ones.

The mother, Kimberly Tenor, originally told investigators that the girl was handed over to "someone with papers from Ohio".

The latest story told investigators how the the little girl was handed over to Death.

From the AP's Documents: Mom Describes Killing Girl, 2:

A woman believed to be the mother of a 2-year-old whose body was found in Galveston Bay told police she and the girl's stepfather beat and tortured the child to death, court documents show.

The details, in a statement Kimberly Dawn Trenor gave to police, paint a chilling picture of the last days of the girl investigators called "Baby Grace" as they worked for weeks to learn her identity.

Investigators are awaiting DNA test results but said Monday they are "fairly confident" that the body a fisherman found in a plastic box Oct. 29 is that of Riley Ann Sawyers. Trenor, 19, and her husband, Royce Clyde Zeigler II, were in custody on charges of hurting the girl.
Clyde Zeigler II: Accomplice in gruesome death of toddler
"It was a few weeks ago I held up this little shoe and asked, 'Who is Baby Grace? Who does this belong to?'" sheriff's Maj. Ray Tuttoilmondo said at a news conference. "We're now fairly confident we know the answer to that."

An autopsy revealed three skull fractures, but the cause of death has not been determined.

Tuttoilmondo said he could not discuss details of the little girl's death, but Trenor said in her police statement, first reported by Houston television station KTRK, that she and Zeigler, 24, killed her July 24.

The girl was beaten with leather belts, had her head held underwater in a bathtub and then was thrown across a room, her head slamming into a tile floor, Trenor said in the document. She said they kept the body in a storage shed for one to two months before they put it in a plastic bin and dumped it into Galveston Bay.

Trenor's attorney, Tom Stickler, said she has cooperated with authorities. He declined to comment about her statement to investigators.

"But from what she said, there is no doubt that the girl found is Riley Sawyers," Stickler said.

Trenor and Zeigler were arrested early Saturday and charged with injury to a child and tampering with evidence, Tuttoilmondo said. Bail was set at $350,000 each. The couple's next court appearance was expected to be scheduled on Tuesday.

Wendell Odom, Zeigler's attorney, declined to comment on the case except to say Zeigler grew up in Spring, about 75 miles north of Galveston, and works as an instrument technician in the oil industry.

Trenor and Zeigler met a couple of years ago playing an online game, World of Warcraft, and she moved with her daughter from suburban Cleveland to Spring in June, Stickler said.

Riley's paternal grandmother, Sheryl Sawyers, hadn't seen her granddaughter in months when she saw a police sketch of "Baby Grace." Thinking it might be Riley, she called authorities in Texas.

In Mentor, Ohio, on Monday, Sawyers wiped away tears at a news conference and held up the Elmo doll she had already bought Riley for Christmas.

"It's hard to think that I'll never see her again," she said.

The Sawyers family's attorney, Laura DePledge, said they take comfort in knowing that the girl is "resting peacefully and is no longer subject to abuse."

DePledge said Trenor and Sawyers' son, Robert Sawyers, also of Mentor, had been high school sweethearts. Sheryl Sawyers said she has not seen Riley since the girl and Trenor moved to Texas.

Robert Sawyers, who works in an auto-parts store, was never married to Trenor but lived with her and their daughter in his parents' home for about two years. He and Trenor split up after March 31, when he was charged with domestic violence against her.

DePledge said there was insufficient evidence to support the charge, which was reduced to disorderly conduct. Robert Sawyers is now married and has a 3-month-old son.
Riley Sawyers: Never had a chance
Riley "had a very big imagination for such a little girl," he said of his daughter. "She could play with anything and have fun with it."

Tuttoilmondo said Trenor had told relatives that someone claiming to be a social worker from Ohio took the girl in July.

Tuttoilmondo said investigators became emotionally involved in determining the little girl's identity.

"Any way you look at it, we carry a piece of her with us and will always carry a little piece of her with us," he said. "She's still our little girl."

From CNN, "Mother describes beating of 2-year-old, hiding her body":

Before dying, 2-year-old Riley Ann Sawyers was beaten with belts, picked up by her hair, thrown across the room and held under water, according to an affidavit from the Galveston County Sheriff's Office.

Kimberly Trenor's testimony raises some troubling questions.

Why?

Was Kimbler Trenor like this prior to moving to Texas?

Why did she fail in any mother primary job: that of protecting her offspring?

How can a mother kill a defenseless, little girl who couldn't fight back? A little girl whose only protection was her mother?

After the violent beating death of the two-year-old, why carefully lay the baby in a cooler, wrapped in plastic?

Why did the pair stay in place in Harris County instead of attempting to flee?

Probably more information will come out in the weeks to come and in the trial. For now, however, the details are enough to anger or sadden any parent.

More charges should be forthcoming, as it is evident that more than tampering with evidence and injury to a child occurred.

For those who have followed the story, the mysterious case of establishing the identity of Baby Grace appears to be over and, like most stories will be forgotten at some point.

For a family in Ohio, it will take longer and the story will not be forgotten.

The gruesome details of the death of Riley Sawyers stick in one's mind.

by Mondoreb
notes by Little Baby Ginn

The thoughts and prayers of DBKP go out to Riley's father and his family

MORE ON RILEY SAWYERS, BABY GRACE in upper left-hand corner of page.



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Mukasey Might Prefer Waterboarding: Hearings Are A Form of Torture

News continues from the Mukasey hearings and it's not good if you're an administration looking for a few good men. The time is long past when hearings about administration nominees, for any post with more responsibility than Department of Amoeba Research, was routine.

More on this from the New York Times:

In adamantly refusing to declare waterboarding illegal, Michael B. Mukasey, the nominee for attorney general, is steering clear of a potential legal quagmire for the Bush administration: criminal prosecution or lawsuits against Central Intelligence Agency officers who used the harsh interrogation practice and those who authorized it, legal experts said Wednesday.

Three Republicans have hopped on the waterboarding issue, presidential candidate John McCain, as well as John Warner and Lindsey Graham. While McCain's stand is understandable, the other two Senators will be among the first voices heard if U.S. intelligence agencies fail to come up with information before the next catastrophic terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

Three Republicans who have denounced waterboarding wrote to Mr. Mukasey on Wednesday, suggesting that they would support him but urging him to declare waterboarding illegal after he is confirmed.

The senators, John McCain of Arizona, John W. Warner of Virginia and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, said anyone who engaged in waterboarding “puts himself at risk of prosecution, including under the War Crimes Act, and opens himself to civil liability as well.”

Senate confirmation hearings are the biggest of political footballs, especially in the run-up to an election year. All of the questions about waterboarding obscures the real issue here. Torture now are the hearings themselves.

by Mondoreb
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I Survived Waterboarding And Other Tales Out of the Left's Basement

It has the smell of a middle school science project. We have a hypothesis and an experiment by a Junior Left Science Club member. One that he might pull off in his parents' basement. As he explains it:

I was thinking about the AG confirmation and how Mukasey isn't certain that waterboarding constitutes torture. And then I started thinking about how Rudy Giuliani doesn't believe waterboarding is torture either.

So I figured I'd find out for myself. I mean if it isn't torture, it can't be that bad, right?

Let me tell you this, it's not pleasant. And we were operating under circumstances where we absolutely knew that the other person wasn't going to kill us with the technique.

Hot Air then picks up the scent:

“[I]f it isn’t torture, it can’t be that bad, right?” our hero wonders rhetorically before declaring it most definitely bad — and recounting how he went in for one, two, three, four rounds of the stuff. Which, incidentally, was fewer than his brother managed. A possible alternative standard: If it is torture, you probably wouldn’t be so willing to have it done to you.

Hot Air provides a video of another water-boarding experiment, that of Fox's Steve Harrigan. Neither Harrigan nor the JLSC member doesn't seem much the worse for wear.

But--boy!--did he come up with a Certified Left conclusion.

So yeah, it's torture. And if Rudy or Dick Cheney or anybody else doesn't think it is, well, I'd like to see how they would react if they had it done to them.

And there are members of the Right Wing Blogosphere who don't want to give the Left any style points for originality.

It'd be original if the Left spent 1/10th the time trying to recreate the victims of terror's experience: being blown to bits, fingers and hands chopped off, the beheadings. Perhaps they might bring a more useful perspective to the discussion of what constitutes torture.

Of course, all that would really mess up the basement.

by Mondoreb

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Rumsfeld Charged with Torture During Trip to France: A Holiday in Paris

Oh, Paris in October! When every ex-DefSec's thoughts turn to investigations!

An erstwhile American ally stands firmly beside the Gem of the Ocean in her struggle against the forces of terrorism. More on the latest French can of worms, from World News:

Former US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld got an unpleasant surprise during his visit to France today when human rights groups filed a complaint with the Paris Prosecutor before the “Court of First Instance” (Tribunal de Grande Instance) charging the chief architect of President George W. Bush's "war on terror" with ordering and authorizing torture.

International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH) along with the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights (ECCHR), and the French League for Human Rights (LDH) filed the complaint while Rumsfeld was in Paris for a talk sponsored by Foreign Policy magazine, and under French law, an investigation must be opened if an alleged torturer is inside France.

Sounds serious. Of course, with the French being an American "ally", how bad could things be? Help was needed, and quickly; so a French spokesman was immediately hurried in to clarify things.

“France is under the obligation to investigate and prosecute Rumsfeld’s accountability for crimes of torture in Guantanamo and Iraq," said FIDH President Souhayr Belhassen. "France has no choice but to open an investigation if an alleged torturer is on its territory. I hope that the fight against impunity will not be sacrificed in the name of politics. We call on France to refuse to be a safe haven for criminals.”

“The filing of this French case against Rumsfeld demonstrates that we will not rest until those U.S. officials involved in the torture program are brought to justice," said CCR President Michael Ratner. "Rumsfeld must understand that he has no place to hide. A torturer is an enemy of all humankind.”

A group with an official-sounding name strikes a blow for groups with official-sounding names everywhere. Just another reason to book your next European visit to London, Rome or Prague instead of Paris.

Many Great Thanks for the shout-out from Pajamas Media: When you just can't decide what to wear (or read) while blogging!



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Carter: Bush Tortured PrisonersCNN: Carter Tortured Listeners

"Jimmy Carter's grasp of U.S. foreign policy, 1976-2007: a topographical representation"

By Mondoreb

Question: What do you do if you're a failed ex-president with time on your hands?
Answer: You get interviewed by CNN's Wolf Blitzer and remind people why even Democrats are embarrassed when your presidency is mentioned.

From CNN:
The United States tortures prisoners in violation of international law, former President Carter said Wednesday.

"I don't think it. I know it," Carter told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

Of course, Jimmy also knew that he was attacked by a killer rabbit during his sad little time in office. The rabbit, like Carter's grasp of past US foreign policy and his understanding of the role an ex-president has to play in the present, is the product of a over-wrought mind.

Dhimmy showed the same understanding of key issues and their solutions on CNN that he demonstrated when Iran stormed the US Embassy and held 52 Americans hostage for over a year. The hostages were blindfolded, threatened and paraded in front of TV cameras regularly for the remainder of Carter's term. The 39th President promptly responded with his "Rose Garden strategy". He vowed not to leave the White House until the hostages were returned. Besides driving his wife Rosalynn nuts, it accomplished nothing, except ensuring the Americans remained hostages until Ronald Reagan was elected.
Carter continued to show off his keen intellect for Blitzer.

[photo:Ask.com]"Our country for the first time in my life time has abandoned the basic principle of human rights," Carter said. "We've said that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to those people in Abu Ghraib prison and Guantanamo, and we've said we can torture prisoners and deprive them of an accusation of a crime to which they are accused."

Carter's logic that the prisoners are covered under the Geneva Convention is something only a DailyKOSSACK would subscribe to. His definition of torture was based on a NY Times article which described alleged "head-slapping, simulated drowning and frigid temperatures". The NY Times article left "being lectured by Jimmy Carter" off the list.

Responding to the newspaper report Friday, Bush defended the techniques used, saying, "This government does not torture people."

Asked about Bush's comments, Carter said, "That's not an accurate statement if you use the international norms of torture as has always been honored -- certainly in the last 60 years since the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was promulgated.

Carter also recently disagreed with, then attacked Vice-president Cheney's position on Iran, so he did what any good Democrat in a debate does: he called him names, a "chickenhawk" to be more exact. Carter calls the administration liars, attacks US foreign policy and slanders Israel at every opportunity. The technical term for this is "the Huffington Post trifecta". It's perfect for scoring points at the Berkeley Far-Left Luncheonette and Latte, but doesn't hold up to much more serious scrutiny.

Jimmy Carter's 50.1% of the vote makes him the only Democrat presidential candidate to win over 50% of the popular vote in the last 42 years. Every time he opens his mouth in public, he convinces more people that perhaps it should be another 42.
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