OBAMA and Same-Sex Marriage: Obama for It During ILL Senate Run

Same Sex Marriage:
Obama Dances the "Personally Believes" Tango

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Obama For Same Sex Marriage Before He Was Against It

Does Barack Obama support same sex marriage?

Depends on who's doing the asking.

The Mainstream Media is reporting--when forced to ask--that Barack Obama opposes same sex marriage.

• CNN: "Opposes same-sex marriage, but also opposes a constitutional ban."
• Obama ties same-sex issues
  to Jesus' Sermon on Mount
  "I will tell you that I don't believe in gay marriage, but I do think that people who are gay and lesbian should be treated with dignity and respect and that the state should not discriminate against them."
  

Obama waffles about on the issue, insisting that he personally opposes--as do the vast majority of Americans--same sex marriage. But when it comes time to state that unequivocally, he fudges about.

Perhaps because he in his first Illinois senate race, he is listed by a Chicago gay-lesbian publication as "supports same sex marriage". Obama's stand on same sex marriage was one reason he got the endorsement of Outlines, a Chicago-based gay paper that merged with the Windy City Times in 2000.










Like so many issues, once Obama has had to appeal for votes of a wider slice of America, his views have changed--at least publicly--180 degrees.


Barack Obama's views on the matter of same sex marriage. The Candidates on Gay Marriage

Obama says that he personally believes that "marriage is between a man and a woman" but also says that "equality is a moral imperative" for gay and lesbian Americans. He advocates the complete repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) because "federal law should not discriminate in any way against gay and lesbian couples, which is precisely what DOMA does." He supports granting civil unions for gay couples, and in 2006 he opposed a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. In March 2007, Obama initially avoided answering questions about a controversial statement by a U.S. general that "homosexual acts" are "immoral," but Obama later told CNN's Larry King, "I don't think that homosexuals are immoral any more than I think heterosexuals are immoral."

John McCain's views on the mattter.

McCain says marriage should be between a man and a woman and should be regulated by the states. He opposed a federal constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage because "it usurps from the states a fundamental authority they have always possessed." McCain endorsed a 2006 Arizona ballot initiative to limit marriage to be between a man and a woman and said, "I'm proud to have led an effort in my home state to change our state constitution and to protect the sanctity of marriage as between a man and woman." He also supported the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which banned federal recognition of gay marriage and domestic partnerships. He supports the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy and says that to "even reopen the issue" would be a "terrific mistake."

Gay and lesbian groups are going saying that discussion of the issue amounts to "fearmongering".

Bilerico Project: Barack Obama supported same-sex marriage in 1996?
"Since we don't have the original questionnaire results, this might have been a response taken out of context that the right is using to fear monger and pick up votes. Obama's been consistent in his opposition to same-sex marriage."

We don't know about all of that. Americans have a right to know where candidates stand on various issues.

Our biggest fear is an uninformed electorate. If Obama is for same sex marriage, that's his right.

A great majority of Americans will disagree with Obama on this point, however.

Barack Obama's past has been placed off-limits to the American public: no medical records, no college records, no university records have been released to the public.

An adoring MSM refuses to ask questions, other than those of the "What's your favorite color?" variety.

Every politically-unpleasant news which disturbs the carefully-packaged image of Barack Obama's shrouded past is dismissed, ignored or whitewashed in the media.

With no record of accomplishments, other than being selected as the Democrat nominee, it's left mainly to the Right half of the blogosphere to inquire and to try and crack the information embargo.

Because the national media seem to have an aversion to asking any questions which the Obama campaign discomfort, don't expect any new information on this topic coming out before the election.

Terence Jeffrey, at Townhall.com, Obama's Mandate for Nationalized Same-Sex Marriage:

In the vice presidential debate, moderator Gwen Ifill asked Biden directly whether he supports same-sex marriage.

"Do you support gay marriage?" she asked.

"No, Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage," said Biden. "We do not support that."

Were this actually Biden and Obama's position, they would be for Proposition 8. But they are not.

"If I lived in California, I'd clearly vote against Prop. 8," Biden told DeGeneres.

The actual Obama-Biden position on same-sex marriage goes beyond merely opposing Proposition 8. In fact, their position sets the stage for liberal federal judges to impose same-sex marriage nationwide by forcing states that have passed their own acts in defense of marriage to recognize same-sex marriages contracted in states such as California, where state judges declare a state "right" to same-sex marriage.

Is Barack Obama for or against same sex marriage?

Again, it depends on who's doing the asking.



by Mondo Frazier
images: dbkp, RidesAPaleHorse
Note: LBG
hat tip for Google 2001 to:
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Obama, Democrats and the Bubba Vote

Obama and the Undecided "Bubba" Vote
Faultlines USA





Democrats haven’t won a majority of whites since 1964. The party leadership is worried that Obama can’t win if he doesn’t improve Democrats’ appeal to the white working class. Is the term “Bubba” helping or hurting Obama?

The “Bubba Vote,” a derogatory term that has replaced “Rednecks,” has come to mean rural, white, working class voters. Today these Bubbas are quite undecided and up for grabs.

Early in September former House majority leader Dick Armey, a Republican, made a statement in an interview with USA TODAY concerning these undecided white voters.

"The Bubba vote is there, and it's very real, and it is everywhere," Armey told USA TODAY and Gannett News Service. "There's an awful lot of people in America, bless their heart, who simply are not emotionally prepared to vote for a black man."

According to a recent AP-Yahoo News poll conducted Sept. 5-15, “18 percent of likely voters are up for grabs — undecided or willing to change their minds . . .” Many of the undecided are experiencing economic woes and consider the economy their top issue, and they are less intensely behind Obama than McCain.

Among these undecided voters, Democrats are much less intensely behind Obama than Republicans are behind McCain. Obama appears to have more people on the bubble, and many of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's former backers haven't fully committed, while McCain's backers are hard-core Republicans and excited by his running mate selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. . . .

A report recently completed by the Democratic Leadership Council argues that “it will be difficult for Obama to earn enough African American and youth support to compensate for enduring Democratic failures with white voters.”

Democrats have not won a majority of whites since 1964. Since 1980 though, Democrats have struggled to even remain competitive among whites, particularly men, and that has allowed Republicans to dominate the last quarter century of presidential politics. . . The report strongly suggests, however, that it will be difficult for the Obama campaign to win if he does not improve Democrats’ appeal to the white working class.

The questionable term, “Bubba voters,” seems to have caught on especially with Obama supporters and African-American columnists and bloggers.

An article Monday, Obama and 'the Bubba Vote', was posted in OpEDNews. It was written by Mumia Abu-Jamal (AKA: Wesley Cook) Former Black Panther Party activist, Abu-Jamal, was convicted and sentenced to death for the 1981 murder of police officer Daniel Faulkner.)

. . .If this Bubba vote has kept Obama from bouncing after a successful convention, McCain's Palin pick has compounded this problem.

For it demonstrates that all the hue and cry over 'experience' was but a smokescreen for something else. It shows us that all the clamor over 'qualifications; was naught but pretext.
For after all is said and done, for millions of Americans, Barack Obama's blackness has made him automatically ineligible for election.

That's not issues; that's not views, that's not politics; that's race. Period. . .

What else is being said about support or the lack thereof for Obama among undecided Bubbas?


Continue reading: Obama and the Undecided Bubba Vote


by Faultlines USA
image: dbkp; dba-oracle.com
Source: Obama and the Undecided Bubba Vote

Sarah, Todd Palin on Daughter, Bristol's Pregnancy

Sarah and Todd Palin issued the following statement regarding today's Reuters story:

"We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us. Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.

"Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi's privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates."

by Mondoreb
images: Heidi from Pittsburgh for DBKP

Hillary Clinton and Women

All women support Hillary?
Um, not exactly


Hillary won over Obama, which makes me a bit happy.

Obama in 2012 when he gets out of diapers, and even the NASCAR daddies will vote for him. Right now, he’d be a disaster.

Yet the newest spin is that women saw Hillary crying and changed their mind.

Give me a break.

Do we really want a president who cries when the going gets rough? Crying in public destroyed the Muskie attempt to run for president, but we give a woman candidate a break?

Yet the polls in New Hampshire show something interesting. From the Washington Post:

CNN-WMUR-University of New Hampshire poll shows a much bigger movement to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) among women than among men. In the pre-election poll released Sunday, 34 percent of women said they supported Clinton, while the exit poll showed that 46 percent of women voted for the senator. The change among men was plus four percentage points.

Is this partial evidence of the “tear” effect that so many have latched onto? A return to the “gender gap” that polls showed before Iowa and the media storm that followed? As was clear last night, much more data analysis — and more elections — await.

Yet this shows that, despite tears, the majority of Democratic women in the state of New Hampshire did not support Hillary.

Ah, but where were the non supporters? In southern New Hampshire, which has become a suburb of Boston? Or in the more rugged and independent north, where blue dog Democrats abound?

I’m waiting for more analysis.

Of course, in a general election, it’s moot: Even Obama supporters won’t vote for an evil Republican who will take away a woman’s right to abort her baby up to five seconds before birth.

Finally, I was only partly right in saying that the “Iron my shirt” was a plant.

Yes it was, but the plant was from a Boston radio station shock jock, not from someone in the Clinton campaign.

However my remarks about her security being so poor that one of these guys with a large cardboard sign got within twelve feet to her, remains a big question.

Perhaps her secret service guys and gals need to review her security a bit better...

by Boinky
[image:atlasshrugs]
Crossposted toBNN.





Death by 1000 Papercuts Front Page.

Dog the Bounty Hunter: Rally Set for NYC Thursday

Organizers hope NYC Dog rally as large as one in Texas for TAR

Dog the Bounty Hunter fans will rally outside the A&E studios building in New York City this Thursday in a show of support for their favorite TV show and personality, Duane "Dog" Chapman.

Organizers are expecting a good turnout of fans in what they bill as a "Peace, rather than a protest type of rally".

A spokesman for one of the organizing groups, Dog's Angels,"We've gotten feedback from people in the NYC area. We have some groups showing up, as well as organized fans, but we still are looking for people to show up and support Dog and his family."

We received the following release from Dog's Angels just a bit ago.

Here is the story of Duane "Dog" Chapman, The Greatest Bounty Hunter in The World.

Mr. Chapman and his family, starred in a reality show on A&E Network's known as Dog The Bounty Hunter--hereafter referred to as DTBH.

He gained fame when he captured the Monster-Predator, one, Andrew Luster, thus propelling him into the limelight of instant Stardom.

This past summer, his book, "You Can Run But You Can't Hide" debuted the New York Times Best Sellers List at #1! Unexpected thousands upon thousands jammed his book signings, only to be turned away, not because Mr. Chapman could sign no more, but because there were no more books left to be sold!

His show was an enormous success,combining the rough and tumble world of bounty hunting, with the home life of The Chapman Family, and bringing to the fore, their deep faith in God, and their unselfish Christian Spirit.

As well as providing compassion and advice to the fugitives they captured, The Chapmans allowed us to view a truly unique family going about their day to day life.

Mr. Chapman has a great appeal to the children. He genuinely cares about their well being and he, along with all the Chapmans, give with their whole heart to such wonderful organizations as "Make a Wish".

Below is a synopsis of what occurred to bring about the demise of DTBH.

Last month, in a PRIVATE telephone conversation with one of his sons, Mr. Chapman used the "N" word in anger and frustration. Little did he know eight months ago, that his own son had taped this conversation and would sell out his own father to the National Enquirer for $15,000! A father, betrayed by his own son!

The National Enquirer posted a partial, edited version of the conversation on the internet, which was taken out of context and, which write-ups were twisted, convoluted and blown completely out of proportion. As a result, Mr. Chapman's show and A&E's #1 program has been halted until further notice.

Mr. Chapman repeatedly publicly apologized on national television on Larry King Live, The Fox News Channel's Hannity and Colmes, amongst others. He has promised to mend his ways. He has met with several black leaders and continues counseling with his black preacher and spiritual adviser, Tim Storey. The fallout continues.

In the meantime, A&E's action against Mr. Chapman has had traumatic effects not only on himself, but on his entire family. Not only has the network taken away Mr. Chapman's livelihood, but also that of his children, who are also bounty hunters in the show, that have mouths to feed of their own. It also has besmirched the Chapman name.

Thus we are deeply saddened at the loss of DTBH on A&E. We, Dogs' Angels, are trying, with the myriad of other fans, to return Mr. Chapman and his family to Tuesday nights on A&E, where they belong. We have been on an email crusade jamming the Inboxes of A&E's and their sponsors'. Also, we have been boycotting the television network and their sponsors as well, specifically YUM! foods which include Kentucky Fried Chicken, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, A&W, Long John Silvers and Wingstreet. We have also been involved in "The Pineapple Campaign".

We along with other fans are sending pineapples (Mr. Chapman lives in and the show is filmed in Hawaii.) to A&E headquarters in New York City, at times, cases to Abbe Raven, CEO. More recently, we are boycotting The National Enquirer as well. Also, there are petitions with tens of thousands of signatures, requesting A&E to please bring the show back on the air. (One of the major ones is The Keep Dog On TV Petition, http://www.petitiononline.com/

Also, and most importantly, we are holding a rally on Thursday, December 13, 2007 at The A&E Building - 235 East 45th St., New York, from 12:00 PM-6:00 PM. We believe Mr. Chapman deserves a second chance, as he has given so many chances to others.

Below is a view which all Mr. Chapmans' fans hold to be true and honest.

It is my firm belief that the conversation between Dog and his son should have remained a private conversation. Additionally, I believe that by so many people adding hype to this inappropriate comment they are literally making a mountain out of a mole hill. Not to undermine the emotion millions of people feel associated with this word. To condemn him for a comment made in private and then publicly display it for national critics is nothing short of wrong, wrong, wrong. If there is to be criticism it should be directed to at his son. It seems to me that America is condoning the betrayal of a son to his father. That is where all the publicity should fall. Having watched "Dogs" show for years and following his response to this issue it is obvious that "Dog" himself has and is sufficiently punishing himself for letting his guard down and making a comment that was made in anger to his son. I honestly do not believe that it was the intent of "Dog" to hurt anyone with the use of t he "N" word. By publicly deciding the outcome of the future for "Dog" and his entire family over one inappropriate word seems so wrong. To quote scripture "Those among you who are WITHOUT sin cast the first stone". Perhaps you haven't used the "N" word however, the word Jew, Wetback, Whitie along with hundreds of other scenarios are every bit as hurtful to those it is applicable to. Dog does not fit the profile acceptable to mainstream America by presenting his personal taste, methods, expressions etc… Those who enjoy his program have known simply for those reasons that it was only a matter of time before something of this nature devastated his career. Why can't America simply accept his apology and move past this. If all of our conversations were put on public display how many of us would be standing in similar shoes? He was provoked by his son when this comment was made. How many of us say things in anger or when provoked that we would give anything to take back? The attention to all the counseling, guidance and respect he gives to those individuals he brings to justice has not been mentioned once. How many of us are the proverbial "Pot calling the kettle black"? We each have one judge in this life and that is GOD ALMIGHTY, I believe He has the judgment issue under control without our help. I say "Forgive" and move on.

Thank you.

Any and all fans who miss watching Dog The Bounty Hunter are invited to the rally. And please, bring a lot of love!

Our website is: Dogsupporter

Contact email - DogsAngels@gmail.com

Interested in the rally? Please email james_iles_19@msn.com

WHO: Dog's Angels
WHAT: Rally for Duane "Dog" Chapman
WHEN: Thursday, Dec. 13th, 12PM - 6PM
WHERE: A&E Building
235 East 45th St
New York, NY

We'll have a report from the rally itself on Thursday as well as some follow-up from some of the supporters on the scene.

Dog the Bounty Hunter fans in the New York City metro area may be busy with Christmas shopping and everyday affairs, but this is one chance to help the cause of returning the Dog to the airwaves.

Arts and Entertainment officials will be watching.

by Mondoreb
[2nd image: RidesAPaleHorse]



Death by 1000 Papercuts Front Page.

The Story of the Houston Chronicle Story: Whom the Troops Support is Still Secret

UPDATE to our earlier story

by Mondoreb & Little Baby Ginn

The story of the Houston Chronicle story "Whom the Troops Support" is how this story became a "story". Take one newspaper, add some secret "analysis" that runs contrary to what is known and voila!--one "story" coming right up.
From our earlier story:

The story is dressed up to show that anti-war critcs/candidates Ron Paul and Barack Obama lead in campaign contributions from military givers. But is that the story? or is this story from the Houston Chronicle the story?

From the Houston Chronicle:

According to a Houston Chronicle analysis of campaign records from January through September, Paul received $63,440 in donations from current military employees and several retired military personnel.

Democrat Barack Obama, another war critic, was second in military giving. The Illinois senator got $53,968 during the nine months.

He was followed by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz, a decorated Navy pilot and former Vietnam prisoner of war, who received $48,208 in military-related giving. McCain has been one of the most vigorous defenders of President Bush's decision this year to increase U.S. troops in Iraq.

The story might just be the Chronicle's methodology in determining it's results. Which is sad, because it throws cold water on what might have been an interesting look at the rates of giving among the military instead of an analysis of Houston Chronicle story contruction. Paul, Obama and McCain supporters have a right to be disappointed when doubts are raised about this story's validity.

No information about the rates of military campaign contributions. No look back at how the military actually votes in presidential election. Not a word of the "Chronicle's analysis" and its methodology. No information on the analytical tools used by the Chronicle.

But the "analysis" was able to determine the dollar amounts of the various candidates was calculated down to the very dollar. Impressive.

No info, just breathless headlines. Must be the Houston Chronicle way.